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Old 06-24-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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I notice there are a lot of people in the US who fall well below the poverty guidelines in the US their whole lives, but never act out from never being able to break out despite working full time. Has there ever been a study in to why these people are so submissive in America?

For example someone who is going in to their sixties and never could afford a mortgage or to pay off a decent car that has never questioned why their hard work never paid off, and are submissive to successful people in public.

You tend to posit your posts on inaccurate supositions. It causes confusion. It's like saying "Do you prefer drinking your coffee while kicking your wife, or do you like hot chocolate better?"
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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What you're implying, is that crime is the natural response to living in low-income conditions. This is outrageous. Also, a failure to turn to crime is not indicative of a "submissive" nature. It's indicative of a law-abiding one, honestly, and a belief in making the best of the hand one was dealt in life. There's a certain dignity in that. I don't expect you'd understand that, though.

Your theory is one of the misguided ones underpinning the Soviet system: crime is caused by poverty, period, so if poverty is eliminated and everyone lives in equal conditions, there will be no crime. Wrong. They found out there was crime anyway, irrespective of having all basic necessities provided to everyone. It was one failure of their theories that they never managed to understand. They weren't strong on psychology, to say the least. Their theories were so idealistic as to be quite naive, even though they considered them to be "scientific" and pragmatic rather than idealistic.

Back to the drawing board, OP...
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Old 06-26-2019, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Murica
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I would bet everything I have that rich people say this about people making 40,000 a year. And it’s just it’s hard to go from middle class to wealth than it is to go from poverty to the middle class. I’ve been middle-class my entire life. It’s not because I decided to be content with it. I would love to be a millionaire.It’s just human design that people tend to stay in the situations that they know.
I make $62,000.00 on a bad year and I'm far from middle class.. I'm seen as "white trash"..
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Old 06-27-2019, 01:17 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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I make $62,000.00 on a bad year and I'm far from middle class.. I'm seen as "white trash"..
And where I live $62k a year for a single would buy you a respectable, if modest, lifestyle. So are you simply going with the govt. poverty guideline numbers, or are you taking COL into account when you make your suppositions?
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Old 06-29-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Murica
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And where I live $62k a year for a single would buy you a respectable, if modest, lifestyle. So are you simply going with the govt. poverty guideline numbers, or are you taking COL into account when you make your suppositions?
I use the current USCIS/HHS figures and real costs of rents, down payments, closing costs, payments etc..

I know plenty of people all over the US who make 32k-65k who are all seen as peasants cause it's labor industries and that was middle class in 1980... With inflation I'm suppose to be making $145,000 a year now. I make what people with the same role did in 1980 though as do everyone else in the high-end labor industries..

I also know what it's like to be part of the <25k group.. You're not even considered human being in that group in 2019; most people I know are still in it..
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Old 07-02-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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"Has there ever been a study in to why these people are so submissive in America?"

If someone in academia studied the effects of attaching a weighted stick to a chicken, someone has undoubtedly studied the reasons for why people don't mind being "wealth challenged".
11 Most Pointless Scientific Studies Ever &ndash; Page 7

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Old 07-03-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Poor people in America, in comparison to the rest of the world, are far from poor. They are provided food,shelter, health care, education, all for free. I read a survey once that somewhere near 80% of the poor had cable and washing machines.
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Old 07-03-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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Poor people in America, in comparison to the rest of the world, are far from poor. They are provided food,shelter, health care, education, all for free. I read a survey once that somewhere near 80% of the poor had cable and washing machines.
Ditch diggers have 4G video phone call capability. Have you EVER seen a hungry American (with the exception of people on diets)? The most destitute illegal has a car, TV, beer money, perfectly fine clothes (heck even I buy clothes at Salvation Army - if you end up not liking a pair of pants or shirt, you only lost $5).
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Murica
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Poor people in America, in comparison to the rest of the world, are far from poor. They are provided food,shelter, health care, education, all for free. I read a survey once that somewhere near 80% of the poor had cable and washing machines.
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Ditch diggers have 4G video phone call capability. Have you EVER seen a hungry American (with the exception of people on diets)? The most destitute illegal has a car, TV, beer money, perfectly fine clothes (heck even I buy clothes at Salvation Army - if you end up not liking a pair of pants or shirt, you only lost $5).
I've always wondered how a poor person can be 70lbs over weight..
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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Take 2 guys doing the same job, offer them promotions based on taking unpaid classes after regular working hours. The guy who takes the classes instead of going home, drinking a beer, and watching cartoons on tv, will get a raise. The other guy will have the opportunity to gripe about not being able to get ahead.

Good luck, Rg
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