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Do you believe it's possible to manifest something you otherwise have no control over?
I do believe a person can manifest things they DO have control over.
(Like changing their own habits to lose weight or doing better in job interviews)
But I'm asking about a specific example.
Let's say a person has a job where he or she gets a randomly-assigned caseload..... and they -- for example -- assess fines for certain violations and send out fine notifications. IF the person who is fined -- appeals -- that means more work for that caseworker. BUT if the person who is fined does not appeal -- and just pays the fine -- that's a lot less work for the caseworker.
So that caseworker would LOVE to have no one appeal.
Do you think the worker can manifest or think into being that they're only going to get non-appeal cases?
(Either by praying or sendiing out thoughts of attraction -- like "universe (God?) only send me non-appeal cases" -- or repeating a mantra: "I am only going to have non-appeal cases.")
However they try to do it...do you think it can be done? Because -- objectively one can make an argument that clearly the person has no control over how many of the people will appeal, and how many cases won't be appealed.
No. This is only about perspective if you really consider the process of “manifestation.” One cannot manifest anything in reality. You can simply change how you respond/react to the things you cannot control. Maybe the tickets being contested seem less aggravating so the caseload seems less, for example.
I don't think magical thinking is helpful. Are we able to influence the circumstances of our life and those around us to a greater degree than we think? Possibly.
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Originally Posted by selhars;
^ I have no idea what you're talking about.
But that's OK. No clarification needed.
I think he said, that manifesting in the context you presented takes a certain amount of astuteness and communication skill. It's not about prayer.
No. This is only about perspective if you really consider the process of “manifestation.” One cannot manifest anything in reality. You can simply change how you respond/react to the things you cannot control. Maybe the tickets being contested seem less aggravating so the caseload seems less, for example.
Then how would you explain situations in which two people, separately, are trying to solve an issue that's arisen, or address a challenge. One is successful, the other isn't. It's not because either of them accepted that they couldn't influence the other person or people creating the issue, which is like giving up. It's because one had a better approach to the problem.
Then how would you explain situations in which two people, separately, are trying to solve an issue that's arisen, or address a challenge. One is successful, the other isn't. It's not because either of them accepted that they couldn't influence the other person or people creating the issue, which is like giving up. It's because one had a better approach to the problem.
So I have to ask you, what's your definition of manifesting?
What's one person being able to solve a problem, resolve and issue, address a challenge the other person could not have to do with manifesting. One person just had better idea, or a brighter minds or more intelligence to come up with the solution. That's all.
So I have to ask you, what's your definition of manifesting? ...
OR how to you see manifesting at play in the example you gave?
Interesting what people read into what's said -- and NOT said.
No where did I say the person is over worked, or in a he!! of a job. The job is actually pretty sweet. But does it have some pressures? This person thinks so. So while others have told the person slow down. You do have more time to get your cases out, the worker's personality type is to be nervous about deadlines. And s/he wants case numbers to be above what's expected.
Also this person could technically retire now. But since the job really isn't heavy lifting compared to previous jobs, the person is planning to work 2 years and 4 months more to reach certain financial goals.
So the person doesn't really want to work -- this is a sweet gig to ride out for 2 more years. The person is trading time for money. Period. No more volunteering. Not interesting in career growth. It's full countdown mode.
BUT -- of course -- it would be even sweeter if all the assigned cases - or more of them, like 75 percent or more -- were not appealed. Your lips to God's ears. People just paid the fine. Close the case.
So if this person can manifest that, why not?
Life is perfectly fine in all other aspects.
Obviously the person can influence/change his/her own mindset about working.
But the question is: can a person manifest something that would otherwise be out of their control.
Would this person's positive thoughts influence the outcome: "No appeals, no appeals, no appeal."...or specifically when a case goes out, "God/universe I pray this person does not appeal."
Well the person can try. And if they get no appeals, they can say it worked, and if they get appeals, then they will say it didn't.
I have lost most of my religious faith due to life events, but I do have enough magical thinking left in me that I try to manifest things now and again.
The only time I’ve tried to manifest something it either worked or I was really lucky and not sure which. Almost 3 years ago when I got a gray divorce I sold my home and had to find a condo to buy quickly. I made a list of what I wanted and asked the universe to provide.
I asked for a condo in a secure building in a certain neighborhood, 2 bedrooms, no carpet, updated kitchen, top floor with a long view of the courtyard away from the pool. Fairly quickly one came on the market providing all of my wishes except the bedrooms had carpet. Only a few people out of 150 condos had a long view of the courtyard away from the pool so that’s the most amazing.
In regard to the worker’s dilemma with the caseload there’s a way to handle not getting appeals. I licensed foster and daycare homes for 4 years and not one person appealed my denials. You can nicely phrase things so that people realize it’s probably not in their best interests to appeal.
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. People just paid the fine. Close the case.
