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Old 07-27-2007, 01:50 PM
 
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If they were so well-educated and liberal then I could expect more intelligent discourse than this.

"Liberal?" Har.

I'm done - this is your locals-only clubhouse now.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Wake Forest, NC
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If they were so well-educated and liberal then I could expect more intelligent discourse than this.

"Liberal?" Har.

I'm done - this is your locals-only clubhouse now.
Thank God! Now we can get back to intelligent discourse.

Oh...and for the record, I don't even live in Cary. I live in Wake Forest.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:54 PM
 
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Cary is logically in the path of a rail running from RTP to downtown Raleigh, so the possibility of mass transit is in play here IMO. It also has to do with how people who cannot afford to live in Cary work might get there.
I agree, but you would have thought that the RDU airport would also be along the logical path of the proposed Light Rail Line to transport business travelers to RTP, and Downtwon Raleigh, but that was not the case and was one of the many criticisms of the Light Rail Plan. That being said, I am a fan of getting a Light Rail, but will limit my commentary on it to broader discussions on it in dedicated Light Rail topic threads since this is an issue for the enitre Traingle area and not soley about lifestyles in and around Cary.

FWIW, the cost of living in a highrise condo in downtown raleigh is not a more affordable alternative to living in Cary by any means. I would love to live downtown, but it has some of the highest cost per square foot numbers going in this area. Downtown Raleigh condo living is not affordable for the average joe.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Wake Forest, NC
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I agree, but you would have thought that the RDU airport would also be along the logical path of the proposed Light Rail Line to transport business travelers to RTP, and Downtwon Raleigh, but that was not the case and was one of the many criticisms of the Light Rail Plan. That being said, I am a fan of getting a Light Rail, but will limit my commentary on it to broader discussions on it in dedicated Light Rail topic threads since this is an issue for the enitre Traingle area and not soley about lifestyles in and around Cary.
At the risk of being off-topic, this is my major criticism of the plan also. And the only reason there isn't a stop at RDU is because it would reduce business for the rental car companies, of which the airport gets a cut.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:12 PM
 
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FWIW, the cost of living in a highrise condo in downtown raleigh is not a more affordable alternative to living in Cary by any means. I would love to live downtown, but it has some of the highest cost per square foot numbers going in this area. Downtown Raleigh condo living is not affordable for the average joe.
Exactly. The entire county has expensive real estate. In general, the price per sq ft is close between Cary and some of the towns further out with the main differences being lot sizes (for new construction). This is the price of being a highly desirable place to live with good jobs.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:00 PM
 
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I have really limited experience with Cary so my answer is not that useful:

Like:
--Grand Asia market
--Trader Joes (I haven't been yet, but I like that it's there)
--I accidentally drove down a street that looked like the country
--Close proximity to several ice rinks
--close proximity to RTP
--good mall with The Limited (The Limited is not at Southpoint)
--Veterinary Specialists of NC is there
--every meetup in the universe on meetup.com is in Cary

Dislike:
--every meetup in the universe on meetup.com is in Cary and I'm not
--very suburban, which I know is a like for many
--my patience-trying coworker lives there
--reclaimed water snafu

I guess this is not a helpful post I'm posting.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:53 PM
 
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Count me as one more person who was liking Cary from a distance and then went down there and visited. No thanks. All the things I hated about Northern VA (subdivision city, cookie cutter houses, etc.,) were there in spades. I started looking elsewhere, outside Wake Co completely since the school situation was making me nervous.

Wow my first negative rep from this post.

The thread title is "Things you like/don't like about Cary". So sue me, I didn't post the things I liked? I also didn't say that everyone who lives in Cary is an idiot, because that's not true-- because to many people the way Cary is developed is heaven to them. And that's fine. Whatever floats your boat.

It's not "me and my ilk" doing this to Cary. From that comment, it sounds as though you have the same problems with Cary that I have. So put the blame where it's due. It's the governing council of Cary not controlling growth in an appropriate manner, not the people moving in there.

You don't like cookie cutter houses on .10 acre lots any more than I do? Then do what they do in New England. Require a 1-2 acre minimum. That makes the national developers like Toll Bros, Centex, etc., shy away and brings out the local builders (more talented for the most part, anyway) which results in a neighborhood carefully crafted with character, trees left standing and most importantly, money staying locally instead of flowing into the bank accounts of national companies.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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How about...if you don't like cookie cutter homes on .10 acre lot, you just don't buy it and move elsewhere? That will give the crappy builders the message that people no longer want their crappy product. In return, these builders will have to modify their product instead of requiring the government to come to the rescure and "require" 1-2 acre lots.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:49 PM
 
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If you require 1-2 acre lots on land where the price/acre is as high as it is close to RTP, then you are going to price most people out of the market. To get a decent price/sq ft ratio the builders will only be able to sell 5-6000 sq ft mansions on that land.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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If you require 1-2 acre lots on land where the price/acre is as high as it is close to RTP, then you are going to price most people out of the market. To get a decent price/sq ft ratio the builders will only be able to sell 5-6000 sq ft mansions on that land.
2 acres @ $175,000 each = a $350,000 building lot.
$350,000 X 5 = $1,750,000 home.
$350,000 X 6 = $2,100,000 home.

This type of exclusionary restrictive zoning is one of the most popular methods of keeping the "wrong" people out of a neighborhood in the name of environmental esthetics.
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