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Like after paying hundreds of dollars to build the deck, I was going to say no to an extra $50?!!
That extra $50 was worth it since I KNEW that the deck was then going to be inspected by the city and that it was up to code.
Vicki
Seriously. When I had my home renovated in NY, the permit was over $4,000. We got most of that back after the CO was issued, but still....$50? Come on!
Seriously. When I had my home renovated in NY, the permit was over $4,000. We got most of that back after the CO was issued, but still....$50? Come on!
It WAS $50. Now that was about 10 years ago so I don't know what the permit would cost today.
Anyone know?
About 3 years ago, I had sellers that had a small attic permitted after the fact. They were not the homeowners that finished off the attic but they wanted to use that square footage when it came time to sell.
They told me it cost them $200 to re permit (Wake County). Wake County tried to fine them for not permitting the space but they fought that since it was not them that finished the space. They won.
The problem with permitting after the fact is that you may have to remove sheetrock to verify that the correct insulation is there.
I get the impression that permits are big business in NY. My dad had to spend about $20,000 getting a CO for my grandparent's house in Yonkers, NY before they could sell it. Evidently a permit had been pulled when my grandfather began building the house (60 years ago), but the process was never completed. Definitely not what you want to find out when you have a buyer that's trying to make a government first time buyer's credit deadline! It all got done in the end and the sale went through though.
Anyhow, the cost of the permit for my rebuilt deck & new screened porch was included in the price of my deck. From looking at the Town of Cary website it probably cost somewhere between $60 and $185. I think they did three inspections along the way before the CO was issued. My taxes did go up a little as well.
I get the impression that permits are big business in NY. My dad had to spend about $20,000 getting a CO for my grandparent's house in Yonkers, NY before they could sell it. Evidently a permit had been pulled when my grandfather began building the house (60 years ago), but the process was never completed. Definitely not what you want to find out when you have a buyer that's trying to make a government first time buyer's credit deadline! It all got done in the end and the sale went through though.
Anyhow, the cost of the permit for my rebuilt deck & new screened porch was included in the price of my deck. From looking at the Town of Cary website it probably cost somewhere between $60 and $185. I think they did three inspections along the way before the CO was issued. My taxes did go up a little as well.
I think you are right...permits in NY are very different from NC!
I had clients that moved from NY and had to get a permit for a porch that had not been permitted. I remember them telling me that they hired an "expeditor" and they paid him quite a bit of money for doing very little (they said since they weren't satisfied with the outcome and actually had to do most of the work, themselves).
I get the impression that permits are big business in NY. My dad had to spend about $20,000 getting a CO for my grandparent's house in Yonkers, NY before they could sell it.
Gotta pay for all those gubmint workers somehow. Permits are a cash cow up there - so much the better if you need one for work that was done in the year of the flood.
Expeditors are usually ex-building dept employees looking to supplement their pensions.
I had my attic finished 18 months ago - the permit was about $100. Obviously we saw that as a bargain!
Gotta pay for all those gubmint workers somehow. Permits are a cash cow up there - so much the better if you need one for work that was done in the year of the flood.
Yeah.. and I think a lot of the money went to tradesmen who had to come out and "bless" what was done (or recommend additional expensive work). My dad said he was going to work on getting a CO for his house (the one I grew up in) - hand built in 1945 or something, way out in the country. Better to do it before you have to sell!
That's crossed my mind but I don't think the sellers will go for it. Reduces the size by almost 1000sq/ft and they would have to reduce the selling price accordingly.
This reads as if it is the Seller's dilemma. They can either go through the permitting and inspection process so the square footage can be included in the sales price, or they sell the house as if the finished area did not exist.
The lack of knowing when the work was performed will increase the cost. I assume the new permits and inspections will require compliance to present day codes and will not allow "grandfathering " to the codes in place when the work was performed.
This reads as if it is the Seller's dilemma. They can either go through the permitting and inspection process so the square footage can be included in the sales price, or they sell the house as if the finished area did not exist.
The lack of knowing when the work was performed will increase the cost. I assume the new permits and inspections will require compliance to present day codes and will not allow "grandfathering " to the codes in place when the work was performed.
Yes, exactly. It is what we decided as well. They have to take care of the issue or we walk.
Permitting and inspection have a useful purpose of keeping people honest and to insure there is safe building done . What the cost equals is permit fees, delayed project's (at least a week) waiting for inspectors, labor waiting for inspectors, reinspection fees (some towns use them as a cash cow.) Therefore the real cost is several hundreds of dollars for no added benefit that is what deters people from getting permits. Any large project (added sq ft) you would not be wise to do without a permit.
Personally, I would walk -- it is a buyer's market and the sellers need to jump through the appropriate hoops. I would not assume that onus of paying for the space that didn't have a permit. Too much h/a and hassle.
It is also my understanding that you need to make sure usable space is permitted sq footage or your insurance company won't pay to rebuild the sq. feet w/o a permit. So calling it 'storage' might be fine & well, but the stuff in it and the space is essentially uninsured.
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but I don't think the sellers will go for it. Reduces the size by almost 1000sq/ft and they would have to reduce the selling price accordingly.
