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Sounds like I will have to give these students a reality check when they enter my college classroom. The due date on an assignment is not a suggestion.
You must be kidding. What makes you think these kids are headed to college.
You are assuming that the student who did not submit the material actually knows the material. In my experience, this is rarely the case.
Indeed. But its more convenient for those making the argument to do away with zeroes to believe that these truant kids are not lacking in knowledge or intelligence but merely suffer from a phobia to establish better grades and do not want to run the risk of doing well in life.
Well said. There was a recent USA Today article where Colleges were complaining about how a large percentage of Freshman are ill prepared for College work. More dumbing down will only make matters worse. Then companies will want more H1-B visas so they can get the workers with the skills needed.
Exactly. A year ago, I spoke with an employer who told me that if a recent graduate is lacking in a particular skill needed to perform the job, it is easy to get that person up to speed. But, one cannot teach "soft skills" on the job. Employers expect their employees to be on time for work, to have solid oral and written communication skills and to present themselves in a professional manner. Part of my job is to not only teach the subject matter, but to prepare them for the realities of the work world.
I have high expectations of every student. I let them know that each of them has the ability to do well. Grades are earned, not given. You submit crap, you will earn a crap grade. Will I help you with any deficiencies that led to that crap grade? Of course. But, if you are not willing to put in the effort, I cannot help you.
Indeed. But its more convenient for those making the argument to do away with zeroes to believe that these truant kids are not lacking in knowledge or intelligence but merely suffer from a phobia to establish better grades and do well in life.
I would submit that it is up to that teacher, instructor or professor to reach out to that student to find out if that is the case. However, that is easier said than done.
Exactly. A year ago, I spoke with an employer who told me that if a recent graduate is lacking in a particular skill needed to perform the job, it is easy to get that person up to speed. But, one cannot teach "soft skills" on the job. Employers expect their employees to be on time for work, to have solid oral and written communication skills and to present themselves in a professional manner. Part of my job is to not only teach the subject matter, but to prepare them for the realities of the work world.
I have high expectations of every student. I let them know that each of them has the ability to do well. Grades are earned, not given. You submit crap, you will earn a crap grade. Will I help you with any deficiencies that led to that crap grade? Of course. But, if you are not willing to put in the effort, I cannot help you.
But, who is checking the schools attended by those H1-B Visa holders to see if they are any better or worse than schools here?
H1-B Visas are for companies to pay lower wages.
It's not that this means those people who have them are not qualified, intelligent people.
Companies do generally pay them less money, or they would never hire and go through all that aggravation.
Similarly qualified local candidates want more money.
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But, who is checking the schools attended by those H1-B Visa holders to see if they are any better or worse than schools here?
H1-B Visas are for companies to pay lower wages.
It's not that this means those people who have them are not qualified, intelligent people.
Companies do generally pay them less money, or they would never hire and go through all that aggravation.
Similarly qualified local candidates want more money.
I am not defending the use of H1-B visas but what you say is not true. The employer must make a good faith effort to hire an American worker and the wage levels are set at a certain level. It usually costs a company more time and money to go through the process. Just the DOL paperwork is enough to put most people off.
Companies and Colleges complain about the low quality of a significant portion of American high school graduates. Foreign workers seem to be providing what we're not.
I am not defending the use of H1-B visas but what you say is not true. The employer must make a good faith effort to hire an American worker and the wage levels are set at a certain level. It usually costs a company more time and money to go through the process. Just the DOL paperwork is enough to put most people off.
Companies and Colleges complain about the low quality of a significant portion of American high school graduates. Foreign workers seem to be providing what we're not.
I just don't buy it. Many foreign workers are very open about their salaries. Salaries have ranges.
My husband works in IT. None of the foreign workers on visas that he encounters make as much as their American counterparts when they start at his company. They tend not to be salary negotiators.
Starting low guarantees you'll stay lower because all raises and bonuses are based on starting pay.
You are assuming that the student who did not submit the material actually knows the material. In my experience, this is rarely the case.
No, I'm not assuming they know the material. If you use the median rather than the mean to determine the grade it should be apparent if the student doesn't know the material unless the material on some assignments is irrelevant to the rest of the course.
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