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Old 06-22-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Yep, I've encountered a lot of that crap. The BS gets old.
It really does.
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Richmond, Virginia
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Well, there is a palpable pecking order on City-Data across many forums. It's quite simple.
  1. When comparing cities, nothing south is ever better than anything north of it.
  2. Nothing newer is ever better than anything older
  3. As a continuation of #2 above, new urban development isn't urban.
  4. Walkability only counts if its in old urban cities
  5. Cities are presumed to be reflective of everything bad that is perceived about that state, unless you are Austin.
  6. Actual data here on City-Data is rarely considered important. Feelings and perceptions are more important.

Is it any wonder that Richmond finds itself in a predicament? It's arguably the furthest north of the southern cities.
I always considered D.C. as the northern- most Southern city. Baltimore as the end of the gritty industrial NE. I know many may disagree with me. But Richmond definitely gets "northeast envy". Its a deeply rooted Southern city that wants to compete with things a bit further to the North. It still feels and looks Southern to me, and I don't consider it a Mid Atlantic city like some do. In recent years, many people are lumping NC into the Mid Atlantic region as well. That's really pushing it !
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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In recent years, many people are lumping NC into the Mid Atlantic region as well. That's really pushing it !

Before I got to the end of your post I was just gonna post that ... and then, "Voila!" ... You beat me to it.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Richmond, Va
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It's very hard to compare Richmond to other cities simply because Richmond is a kinda unique situation. But I will start here...

First of all, comparing it to Baltimore is actually not that far off... sure Bmore's housing stock may be roughly 80% rowhomes (compared to RVA's roughly 40%) and it's a more populated city, they are certainly not that drastically different. I brought up the rowhomes because a lot of people like to compare Richmond to Charleston and Savannah...aside from some of the housing in Jackson Ward and maybe Church Hill (the oldest part), if one was to simply take a closer look then it wouldn't take long to see that they are NOTHING alike. Richmond's build (except for the south side) is very similar to the cities of either the northeast (the east and west ends of the city) or the Midwest (the north side, especially Highland Park). The city's south side is much less urbanized than the others due to the fact most of it wasn't even part of it until 1970.

Someone brought up walkability, and I think that's important in this conversation. Richmond has numerous diners, corner stores, coffee shops, etc. either on the same block or the next block from one's home, in most sections (again sans south side) of the city.



What Richmond does have in common with the rest of the south is the culture, and to a degree the pace, but I will save that for a different thread...
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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Not to put Richmond down, but I find it a bit overrated on this site. Richmond may have a more "urban" feel, but it's not way ahead of Raleigh in that regard. As far as culture, restaurants, amenities, shopping, and QOL are concerned...I prefer Raleigh, but that's highly subjective.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA, from Boston
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Not to put Richmond down, but I find it a bit overrated on this site. Richmond may have a more "urban" feel, but it's not way ahead of Raleigh in that regard. As far as culture, restaurants, amenities, shopping, and QOL are concerned...I prefer Raleigh, but that's highly subjective.
No, it really is much more urban than Raleigh. I honestly don't see how anyone could say any differently. Raleigh has a completely different feel.

My friends in Raleigh all want to move to Richmond, for the urban bit.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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No, it really is much more urban than Raleigh. I honestly don't see how anyone could say any differently. Raleigh has a completely different feel.

My friends in Raleigh all want to move to Richmond, for the urban bit.
Can't remember if I said it in here, but I think Richmond is primed for a population boom. In part because it is a southern city with more of an urban feel than its counterparts.

Also seems as if it's the final frontier of moderately sized southern cities that haven't experienced a real boom yet.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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No, it really is much more urban than Raleigh. I honestly don't see how anyone could say any differently. Raleigh has a completely different feel.

My friends in Raleigh all want to move to Richmond, for the urban bit.
What do you mean when you say, Raleigh has a completely different feel?

When I consider size and growth, what exactly does Richmond offer that Raleigh doesn't ? Also, your friends obviously don't represent the majority.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle, NC
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No, it really is much more urban than Raleigh. I honestly don't see how anyone could say any differently. Raleigh has a completely different feel.

My friends in Raleigh all want to move to Richmond, for the urban bit.
Richmond definitely has an older urban feel than Raleigh, which makes sense because it's a much more mature city. I wouldn't call it "more" urban, though, let alone "much more" urban.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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Building density, population density, infrastructure (highways, sidewalks, bridges, trains), the dress of the residents...Richmond is much more urban than Raleigh.
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