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Old 03-20-2017, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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They storm chasers are not worth the increase you will have in your insurance. They not are giving you a 30 year roof, more like a 10 and the workmanship is terrible. Good luck getting them to come back if you have issues. Chances are if they are like the ones who did mine, you will still be finding roofing nails around the house 3 years later.


You get what you pay for!


My next roof will be done by Allen and Deans. They have taken care of other items for me and I have full trust in them that my roof would we done well.
And, the owner, Matt Maresh, is NOT a storm chaser.
He tries to avoid the insurance game.

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From what I hear, people aren't getting increases in their insurance. Not any more than their neighbors who aren't working the system at least....

And plenty of the "reputable" roofers around here want insurance work as well. We went through the quoting process and the first thing asked was always "are we looking for hail damage?".
It is a smart question for any roofer to ask. Qualify the customer's intent.
With some storm chasing roofing companies compounding the scams, by inflating the price and "paying the deductible," a reputable roofer will at least avoid that fraud.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:18 AM
 
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It is a smart question for any roofer to ask. Qualify the customer's intent.
With some storm chasing roofing companies compounding the scams, by inflating the price and "paying the deductible," a reputable roofer will at least avoid that fraud.
I didn't get that feeling, but you may be right.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I didn't get that feeling, but you may be right.
You talkin' to the wrong Reputable Roofers.

Neighbor heard that people were getting free roofs, and he shopped for a storm chaser.
Last roof on the street.
24 Y. O. 20 year shingles, with multiple leaks.
I had interest in the house and had an honest quote for 30 year architectural shingles for the roof. $5989, plus plywood as needed. Storm chaser says, "I cannot come close to that."
They never are value-leaders.

And, the neighbor got a piece of the pie.

A great many of these jobs start with the consumer and word of mouth, bragging, etc.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:25 AM
 
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You talkin' to the wrong Reputable Roofers.
Maybe? I did tons research on this site, Nextdoor, word of mouth, etc.

They may not be walking around with a hammer during their roof inspections, but I doubt anyone's going to pass up insurance work.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Maybe? I did tons research on this site, Nextdoor, word of mouth, etc.

They may not be walking around with a hammer during their roof inspections, but I doubt anyone's going to pass up insurance work.
There is a very very wide gulf between aggressively prospecting for insurance work and even offering to "pay" deductibles, and turning down insurance work.

There are good roofers in that gulf.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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I would interested to know the history on increased premiums or insurance drops due to roofs being replaced due to "hail".

I've heard everything from it's law in NC that premiums can't increase due to roof replacements, to since it's an "act of God" it doesn't qualify for a rate increase.

There is clearly so much fraud going on, and it seems that nobody cares. We will all pay for it in the end - roof socialism!

I just have a hard time dealing with the "I gotta get my piece of the pie!" mentality. It's so telling.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:36 AM
 
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Is there ever a good way to engage insurance? Maybe they could even take a portion of the job and you front the rest?
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:40 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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If you're shy about using the more reputable operators and paying that cost increment
one thing to be CERTAIN of is the time required to COMPLETE the job...
and that the contract stipulates it.

The simple, single-gable 1 story, as described earlier, should be a one day job.
But even the large house with multiple gables and high roofline etc... shouldn't need much more.

The lesser operators will never seem to have enough skilled help available
or issues with having enough materials to proceed in an orderly manner. Beware.
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Apex NC, the Peak of Good Loving.
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Recommendations ...

Do a tear-off rather than cover past sins with new shingles. Be prepared to replace faulty roof sheathing and rotted fascia which may be discovered.

Specify the best, most durable shingles you can afford. Hand nailing is preferable.

Install a ridge vent if your house doesn't already have one. However, budget for associated costs. To operate properly
- existing through-the-roof vents must be eliminated.
- existing gable vents must be sealed.
- additional soffit vents must be installed.

Hand nailing is preferable.

Replace all vent boots and flashing. Don't skimp on this point or the new boots won't outlast the new shingles.

Regardless of which contractor you choose insist on no money changing hands until the job is finished and you are satisfied. That includes meticulous clean-up of the job site.

Get at least three bids on the job. Past threads identify quality roofers. I recommend Baker Roofing or Tom Buzzard.

Make sure all details are put in writing. That avoids disagreements in the "but you said .." category.

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Old 03-20-2017, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Fuquay-Varina
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Verify their liability and workers comp insurance is in effect and up to date, don't just ask them, get the policy number and verify. The last thing you want is for a roofer to fall of your roof and live with no insurance. They will sue you, and your homeowners insurance will not cover their "100k a year loss in revenue for the rest of their life".

Have them sign a lien waiver that states materials and labor are paid for. This protects you immensely in the event the contractor did not pay workers or the supply house, and they come after you for the money they are owed.

Never give a contractor money up front. Never give a contractor money up front. Never give a contractor money up front. If they can't afford to buy materials, they cannot afford to stay in business and service potential issues down the road. This also prevents them from running off with your money.

Follow those rules as well as finding a reputable roofer will give you a quality, stress free job.

I would recommend our very own J. Trent Hicks. Fantastic roofer/contractor.
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