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Location: River's Edge Inn, Todd NC, and Lorgues France
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Originally Posted by pierretong1991
As a churchgoer myself and someone who sympathizes with churches who aren't able to hold online services or those with a large population unable to utilize these technologies, I really don't think now is the right time to open churches back up. Even with social distancing, you're in an enclosed space for 1 hour-1.5 hours and singing is the perfect way to spread respiratory droplets to everyone (and are churches really going to enforce capacity limits?)
especially since the ages of church goers seems to be older
Florida's rates are slightly worse than NC's, and given their population of elderly, that's to be expected, despite their massive spring break festivities.
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Originally Posted by DPK
lol wat. Look at any nursing home or prison where the virus was detected. It surges like crazy.
A Prison is not a beach. And a Nursing home? Come on. Everything is closed in, every doorway shared, every table is shared, every one walks in the same door to eat, etc...
Florida's rates are slightly worse than NC's, and given their population of elderly, that's to be expected, despite their massive spring break festivities.
Two problems with this:
1. Majority of people going to Spring Break in Florida are not from Florida.
2. Most are young and even if they had it, likely never got tested.
But yeah I do agree with you that a lot of these big events that they claimed would have so much impact, haven't. For example the Billie Eilish concern at PNC that everyone freaked out about. But I don't think there's any real way to trace Florida spring break.
Then on the other hand you have the Biogen meeting in Boston where like 30% of the attendees got it. It really seems that it's extended contact in enclosed places.
1. Majority of people going to Spring Break in Florida are not from Florida.
2. Most are young and even if they had it, likely never got tested.
But yeah I do agree with you that a lot of these big events that they claimed would have so much impact, haven't. For example the Billie Eilish concern at PNC that everyone freaked out about. But I don't think there's any real way to trace Florida spring break.
Then on the other hand you have the Biogen meeting in Boston where like 30% of the attendees got it. It really seems that it's extended contact in enclosed places.
In terms of COVID, probably not.
In terms of where those people went back to, 100% yes. I shared a video weeks back of a tech company that zoomed in on cellphone pings from a beach in FL and then tracked where those phones went back to.
1. Majority of people going to Spring Break in Florida are not from Florida.
2. Most are young and even if they had it, likely never got tested.
But yeah I do agree with you that a lot of these big events that they claimed would have so much impact, haven't. For example the Billie Eilish concern at PNC that everyone freaked out about. But I don't think there's any real way to trace Florida spring break.
Then on the other hand you have the Biogen meeting in Boston where like 30% of the attendees got it. It really seems that it's extended contact in enclosed places.
it is weird that a concert wouldn't produce so many cases but a conference would, but community spread had probably taken hold in Boston, before it did here. So, there may have been many more people who were exposed before they came to the conference than who went to the concert. Also possible lots of asymtomatic people resulted from the concert since most of them were pretty young that attended. It's also possible that people who went to the conference got sicker and therefore went to the hospital and/or were tested, while people who went to the concert were - again - younger and didn't get as sick, didn't bother going to the hospital and didn't get a test. Even the epidemiologist who is on NBC News and is now in the hospital with it, has tested negative, probably because he didn't get sick enough to go to the hospital till a few weeks after he fell ill. Nick Cordero, the Broadway guy who is so sick, tested negative four times before he went on a vent.
it is weird that a concert wouldn't produce so many cases but a conference would, but community spread had probably taken hold in Boston, before it did here. So, there may have been many more people who were exposed before they came to the conference than who went to the concert. Also possible lots of asymtomatic people resulted from the concert since most of them were pretty young that attended. It's also possible that people who went to the conference got sicker and therefore went to the hospital and/or were tested, while people who went to the concert were - again - younger and didn't get as sick, didn't bother going to the hospital and didn't get a test. Even the epidemiologist who is on NBC News and is now in the hospital with it, has tested negative, probably because he didn't get sick enough to go to the hospital till a few weeks after he fell ill. Nick Cordero, the Broadway guy who is so sick, tested negative four times before he went on a vent.
That brings into question, the reliability of the test. once again back to testing issues.
That brings into question, the reliability of the test. once again back to testing issues.
"The Food and Drug Administration is cautioning the public about the reliability of a widely used rapid test for the coronavirus. The test, made by Abbott Laboratories, has been linked with inaccurate results which could falsely reassure patients that they are not infected with the virus.
As first reported on NPR, as many as 15 to 20 out of every 100 tests may produce falsely negative results. A subsequent study released this week indicated that the test could be missing as many as 48% of infections."
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