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Old 02-11-2022, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Durm
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And I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that's great that what you've done - chosen or not - is what works for you and makes you feel comfortable. It gives you a sense of normalcy. Perhaps you've been an indoor mask-wearer since before Covid, maybe not. But this is a "normal" with which you're personally comfortable.

Some of the rest of us would like to have the same choice - to do what we're comfortable with and works for us in the context of not being a known and active spreader. And trying to claw back on anywhere from 20-40% of our children's lives that have been negatively impacted exponentially worse than the virus would impact them statistically.
So fine, don't wear one. I'm not trying to force you to wear one. I was responding to the guy who said I must stop wearing one.

I have no idea why you would think I've been an indoor mask wearer since before covid. I've said absolutely nothing to indicate that - this is so stupid. Go into Chapel Hill Wegmans and 99% of people are wearing masks - are we all irrational and fear based?

I told you on here I took a cross country trip this year and I've been to Florida twice since the pandemic. I was actually heavily criticized in real life for going in October 2020 pre-vax. I spent several days in South Dakota and to be honest did not mask as much as I do here, mainly because I was almost never around children inside (did no grocery shopping).

This criticism of people who DO mask in stores needs to stop. If you all are so secure in your anti-masking you really shouldn't care what the rest of us do. I hate masks but as I have now said numerous times, it doesn't bother me at all to wear one for 30 min in a grocery store until little kids can be vaccinated.

AGAIN, YOU DO YOU AS I HAVE SAID ALREADY
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Durm
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I hear some experts say red wine reduces the risk of covid. I choose to believe. Highly recommend it.
Happy to join that study
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Apex, NC
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=NM posts;62876620]So fine, don't wear one. I'm not trying to force you to wear one. I was responding to the guy who said I must stop wearing one.

I have no idea why you would think I've been an indoor mask wearer since before covid. I've said absolutely nothing to indicate that - this is so stupid. Go into Chapel Hill Wegmans and 99% of people are wearing masks - are we all irrational and fear based?

I told you on here I took a cross country trip this year and I've been to Florida twice since the pandemic. I was actually heavily criticized in real life for going in October 2020 pre-vax. I spent several days in South Dakota and to be honest did not mask as much as I do here, mainly because I was almost never around children inside (did no grocery shopping).

This criticism of people who DO mask in stores needs to stop. If you all are so secure in your anti-masking you really shouldn't care what the rest of us do. I hate masks but as I have now said numerous times, it doesn't bother me at all to wear one for 30 min in a grocery store until little kids can be vaccinated.

AGAIN, YOU DO YOU AS I HAVE SAID ALREADY
If you’re waiting for vaccination % of kids to be the metric, I think you could be waiting a while.
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Durm
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If you’re waiting for vaccination % of kids to be the metric, I think you could be waiting a while.
AGAIN. You guys really need to learn to read better.

I hope you don't work in clinical research.

I did not say I was waiting for a percentage of kids to be vaccinated.

I said I was waiting until little kids CAN be vaccinated.

Those are two different parameters.

It is unfortunate for the little kids if their parents don't get them vaccinated once they are eligible.

Also, I would add, stores require them where I live.

I've had enough of being attacked for wearing a ^&*$%$^%&(p mask where they are required and where everybody is wearing them. I cannot stand you people and i mean that personally. I guess I'll stop responding so I don't get infracted, but basically, **** off and go infect each other, then move to Mars
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:39 AM
 
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I've had enough of being attacked for wearing a ^&*$%$^%&(p mask where they are required and where everybody is wearing them. I cannot stand you people and i mean that personally. I guess I'll stop responding so I don't get infracted, but basically, **** off and go infect each other, then move to Mars
This conversation started with a point that the media and government are sending the wrong signal, which has no doubt caused mental health issues in *some* people over the course of the past couple years. The past couple years have been enough to break anyone down, especially children. The point of that original post was, maybe people can be helped if the messaging is a little different.

You came in and said you will continue to wear a mask, and gave the reasons why. People challenged those reasons, and it followed with a lengthy discussion. I went back and I see no posts of anyone attacking you, just people questioning your reasoning.

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Old 02-11-2022, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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So fine, don't wear one. I'm not trying to force you to wear one. I was responding to the guy who said I must stop wearing one.
I was taken aback at this post, and really the subsequent one, and so I had to go back and see how we got here. Your post that I quoted was not directly responding (quoting, or part of being addressed in any way when you made it) to anyone. I can see you were responding to some positions that m378 has.

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I have no idea why you would think I've been an indoor mask wearer since before covid. I've said absolutely nothing to indicate that - this is so stupid. Go into Chapel Hill Wegmans and 99% of people are wearing masks - are we all irrational and fear based?
I didn't say this either. I said "perhaps" and "maybe not". Certainly some people of Asian culture have been winter mask wearers around here for years. I never said anyone that did wear a mask indoors was irrational nor fear-based. Heck, I dutifully put it on when I go shopping, and maintain my social distance.

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I told you on here I took a cross country trip this year and I've been to Florida twice since the pandemic. I was actually heavily criticized in real life for going in October 2020 pre-vax. I spent several days in South Dakota and to be honest did not mask as much as I do here, mainly because I was almost never around children inside (did no grocery shopping).
I'm sorry that your circle of friends criticized you, but I don't see anyone here doing so for taking trips.

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This criticism of people who DO mask in stores needs to stop. If you all are so secure in your anti-masking you really shouldn't care what the rest of us do. I hate masks but as I have now said numerous times, it doesn't bother me at all to wear one for 30 min in a grocery store until little kids can be vaccinated.

AGAIN, YOU DO YOU AS I HAVE SAID ALREADY
I haven't criticized anyone who wore a mask in stores. And again per above, I wear the mask as required where required. I even stated that I was glad that you had the choice - I really don't (and I agree shouldn't) care what the mask-wearers do - that's their choice.

I want my choice based upon the information available regarding the risks. That's all.

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Old 02-11-2022, 07:14 AM
 
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I very bad for those that have conditions that put them at risk, and am very thankful that it's not something I have to deal with. However, I don't think the entire world should mask forever to protect those few. It was never that way before, and it shouldn't be now.
I think this is the crux of the debate. Some believe in making allowances for those of us who are disadvantaged in some way. Things like braille on signs, curb ramps at intersections, low cost school meals, etc.
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Old 02-11-2022, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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by the way, I should have had NC-specific pediatric figures yesterday.

< 18 is ~22% of NC population
< 18 is 18% of total cases
< 18 is ~2% of hospitalizations (per NCDHHS dashboard)

taking a 7-day average of pediatric cases and dividing into the # of pediatric admissions last posted is a rate of 0.8% of admissions.
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Old 02-11-2022, 07:46 AM
 
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So fine, don't wear one. I'm not trying to force you to wear one. I was responding to the guy who said I must stop wearing one.

I have no idea why you would think I've been an indoor mask wearer since before covid. I've said absolutely nothing to indicate that - this is so stupid. Go into Chapel Hill Wegmans and 99% of people are wearing masks - are we all irrational and fear based?

I told you on here I took a cross country trip this year and I've been to Florida twice since the pandemic. I was actually heavily criticized in real life for going in October 2020 pre-vax. I spent several days in South Dakota and to be honest did not mask as much as I do here, mainly because I was almost never around children inside (did no grocery shopping).

This criticism of people who DO mask in stores needs to stop. If you all are so secure in your anti-masking you really shouldn't care what the rest of us do. I hate masks but as I have now said numerous times, it doesn't bother me at all to wear one for 30 min in a grocery store until little kids can be vaccinated.

AGAIN, YOU DO YOU AS I HAVE SAID ALREADY
How much of the Wegmans mask compliance is due to active enforcement of the Orange County Mask mandate? We went to Al's Burger shack last weekend and they were adamant we wear a mask while standing in line to order, meanwhile everyone sitting at the table 10 ft away was maskless.
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Old 02-11-2022, 08:04 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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I think this is the crux of the debate. Some believe in making allowances for those of us who are disadvantaged in some way. Things like braille on signs, curb ramps at intersections, low cost school meals, etc.
So now we are making the leap that masks should become part of the Americans with Disabilities Act?

The vaccination rate of kids under 18 is not high enough to think that under 5 is going to make any appreciable difference. This all comes down to personal preference of parents as well. I am fully PRO VAX but there's no way I'd be giving my baby the Covid vax along with the MANY others that they need for diseases that pose a far greater risk... Everyone else having to mask because there's a MINISCULE chance that the kids of parents who WILL vax them (which I am guessing is also pretty small) is just plain performative at this point.
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