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Old 07-01-2021, 08:31 PM
 
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Not all of us are blessed to live in communities that have an HOA. I'd be looking for some legal avenue or asking Raleigh for help if I had the unfortunate luck to live next to or very close to this snake-charming family.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:55 PM
 
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It has never occurred to me to mention that, WITH an HOA, the number of poisonous snakes living next door to you can be limited but I will use that NOW!
HOA's don't have any kind of legal authority to search inside people's homes to see how many snakes they might have. You would not even know the snakes were there unless they escaped or the owner made it public knowledge like this guy did.
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Since this dude likes deadly snakes so much, I say we give him The Anaconda.
FF to 2:20. He deserves it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQmA...annel=Clips07M
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Old 07-02-2021, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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HOA's don't have any kind of legal authority to search inside people's homes to see how many snakes they might have. You would not even know the snakes were there unless they escaped or the owner made it public knowledge like this guy did.
I'm SHOCKED that someone living near this guy didn't COMPLAIN! People complain about EVERYTHING!

Once Animal Control is called, they ask to be allowed in to assess the situation.

According to other neighbors, he is online so the snakes don't appear to be a secret addiction!
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Old 07-02-2021, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Not all of us are blessed to live in communities that have an HOA. I'd be looking for some legal avenue or asking Raleigh for help if I had the unfortunate luck to live next to or very close to this snake-charming family.
There are so many people on this forum that complain about living in a neighborhood with an HOA.

I don't run into people like that too often EXCEPT on this forum!

I just want those folks to understand why most of us prefer to live in a neighborhood with an HOA.

I'm with you 100%...I'd also be looking to see what needs to be done to keep a neighbor and a neighborhood safe from these poisonous snakes.
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Old 07-02-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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... I explain WHY an HOA is good, how it keeps yards looking nice and how it keeps people from parking their cars on their front yard.
An HOA is not a law enforcement agency. It appears that the snakes' owner(s) have committed crimes under NC state law. On top of that, I'll bet a case of beer that both Wake County and the City of Raleigh adopt new, more restrictive ordinances for venomous snakes.

If the cobra had parked itself in my crawlspace, I'd already have my lawyer at the courthouse to file suit against the snake's owner. No HOA needed for that.

In my HOA-free neighborhood there are restrictive covenants that have a documented enforcement mechanism. Moreover, the City of Raleigh municipal code constrains many objectionable behaviors in areas that are zoned residential. A suggestion that only an HOA can protect your property value is ludicrous. Think of all the ITB homes now worth seven digits without any HOA.
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Old 07-02-2021, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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An HOA is not a law enforcement agency. It appears that the snakes' owner(s) have committed crimes under NC state law. On top of that, I'll bet a case of beer that both Wake County and the City of Raleigh adopt new, more restrictive ordinances for venomous snakes.

If the cobra had parked itself in my crawlspace, I'd already have my lawyer at the courthouse to file suit against the snake's owner. No HOA needed for that.

In my HOA-free neighborhood there are restrictive covenants that have a documented enforcement mechanism. Moreover, the City of Raleigh municipal code constrains many objectionable behaviors in areas that are zoned residential. A suggestion that only an HOA can protect your property value is ludicrous. Think of all the ITB homes now worth seven digits without any HOA.

Wellll...
The snake took up residence in Brittany Woods.
Relocated from Mom's basement in Pickwick Village.
And, Pickwick Village covenants that limited animals to typical domestic pets expired in 2002.
So, covenants, and standing of residents to cite them in court would be an interesting consideration.

However, I would suggest your attorney could convince plenty of local residents to join in your suit, and save you some legal fees.
I expect civil action for remedy for Serpentine PTSD any day now.
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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There are so many people on this forum that complain about living in a neighborhood with an HOA.

I don't run into people like that too often EXCEPT on this forum!

I just want those folks to understand why most of us prefer to live in a neighborhood with an HOA.

I'm with you 100%...I'd also be looking to see what needs to be done to keep a neighbor and a neighborhood safe from these poisonous snakes.

Who are those "most of us"? Realtors? Regular folks? This area is the only place I've lived with this many HOA. It's almost impossible to get something without it. I hear it has to do with the city passing on the storm water creeks maintenance to homeowners -- but I do not remember the details. It might be something else. Elsewhere I have ever lived citizens somehow managed to co-exist, take care of their lawn and take their disputes to courts if needed, without some group of people regulating everything. Here you do not have much of a choice.

Somehow all the houses I've owned in these places kept their value, and actually sold for a lot more than I paid for them. In a lot of places, city would charge you a fine if you don't mow your lawn, leave your trash cans out, don't shovel your sidewalks, etc. I actually got a warning because my idiot neighbor called the city inspector and told him that there was a poisonous plant in my alley. I quickly clarified that indeed it wasn't a poisonous plant. But, it took 2 photos, 3-4 phone calls. They forced me to get rid of the GD plant, because it would create phone calls regardless. So I mean who needs an HOA, when you have neighbors like this? Imagine giving them the power of being in HOA board. I am no libertarian, but good lord, f*** all of this overreach.
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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An HOA is not a law enforcement agency. It appears that the snakes' owner(s) have committed crimes under NC state law. On top of that, I'll bet a case of beer that both Wake County and the City of Raleigh adopt new, more restrictive ordinances for venomous snakes.

If the cobra had parked itself in my crawlspace, I'd already have my lawyer at the courthouse to file suit against the snake's owner. No HOA needed for that.

In my HOA-free neighborhood there are restrictive covenants that have a documented enforcement mechanism. Moreover, the City of Raleigh municipal code constrains many objectionable behaviors in areas that are zoned residential. A suggestion that only an HOA can protect your property value is ludicrous. Think of all the ITB homes now worth seven digits without any HOA.
I can't begin to explain why "I" think a neighborhood WITH an HOA is so much better than a neighborhood WITHOUT an HOA. Actually, I can but the list is too long and I have no intentions of going over it.

I'm glad there are choices for people...you can choose why you prefer an HOA or not. And, you can buy a home where you choose.

But...when MY CLIENTS ask me, I'm more than happy to explain it. And once they are educated to the advantages and disadvantages of a HOA, they can make an educated decision FOR THEMSELVES!
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Old 07-02-2021, 09:06 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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If the cobra had parked itself in my crawlspace, I'd already have my lawyer at the courthouse to file suit against the snake's owner. No HOA needed for that.

I.

Your lawyer would probably say "no" to that since you would have suffered no damages, assuming everything played out the way it did.
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