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Old 12-08-2022, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Where the College Used to Be
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I daresay it's a helluva lot easier to join social media than it is to buy alcohol, smoke or gamble underage. There is absolutely zero proof of age required to join any social media platform.

Your savvy elementary school child could join. Plenty have.
Of course it is.

My point was one social media site already required documentation to prove who you are to get a blue check mark. So in theory, anyone of them could force users to “prove who they are” to open an account.

I never implied what you seem to be using as your counter (that it’s easier to get booze etc than it is to get a Facebook account. That’s a given)
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Old 12-08-2022, 07:45 PM
 
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It's not that cut and dried. Anyone can start a new social media platform - what are you going to require government approval for every website accessible by US citizens? Yeah that's not a good path. Open source social media is probably the future - anyone can/will be able to spin up a Twitter or a Facebook in a matter of minutes.

You can't control information/technology in a constitutional manner. It's not like controlling the purchase of a physical object.
You’re right on the “open source” (using that term extremely loosely in this context) part of your post. Chris Bouzy is already starting a new “Twitter” since Musk took it over. I expect that trend to continue.

Is it control? I’m not saying that sites even with content I find heinous shouldn’t exist. They should one million percent. Adults should be able to go to any site on any subject they so desire, within the legalities that currently exist (ie kiddie porn etc remain illegal). That is government think police and I’m in no way supportive of that.

Verifying a user base is hardly the same thing. Unless you believe everyone has a right to use a site. Which isn’t the case, even today, at all. Anyone’s use of a given site is a privilege bestowed by a private company assuming a user follows the sites Ts and Cs.
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Old 12-08-2022, 07:52 PM
 
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Unless you believe everyone has a right to use a site. Which isn’t the case, even today, at all. Anyone’s use of a given site is a privilege bestowed by a private company assuming a user follows the sites Ts and Cs.
Right, but there will always be (many) people who believe everyone should have a right to any website that doesn't break laws. So if Facebook and Instagram and TikTok put in minimum age requirements and are actually able to enforce them (which will never ever happen), then someone else with the desire to make money will just start a new platform that is not 18+, which is perfectly legal.
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Old 12-08-2022, 08:04 PM
 
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Glad no one was hurt.
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Old 12-08-2022, 08:06 PM
 
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Seth Lanterman-Schneider, 39, of Willow Spring is charged with selling/giving a weapon to a minor, which is a misdemeanor, according to the sheriff’s office.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/lo...#storylink=cpy
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Old 12-08-2022, 11:08 PM
 
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"Friday will be a teacher work day to allow students to process the events."

What does this sentence mean?

I mean, the world as we know it, is basically going to hell in and a handbasket.
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:36 AM
 
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How is this a misdemeanor?
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:39 AM
 
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Right, but there will always be (many) people who believe everyone should have a right to any website that doesn't break laws. So if Facebook and Instagram and TikTok put in minimum age requirements and are actually able to enforce them (which will never ever happen), then someone else with the desire to make money will just start a new platform that is not 18+, which is perfectly legal.

GDPR and GLBA are enforced why couldn't another regulation be enforced?
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:59 AM
 
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GDPR and GLBA are enforced why couldn't another regulation be enforced?

Preventing 14 y.o. kids from accessing a website because they are underage is a fool's errand. Disclaimers are only risk reduction, not underage access prevention.

Yes, you could make the site owner responsible for underage access, but that would kill the internet as we know it.




When a website wants my birthday, it is always February 29, 1981. Many accept that, and I get birthday greetings every February.
But, I am hardly as relentless as a 14 year old with a mission to see something I am not supposed to see.
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:27 AM
 
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GDPR and GLBA are enforced why couldn't another regulation be enforced?
Because compliance of website code is much easier than compliance of humans.
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