Duke and UNC-CH Rising in National Ranking (cost of, tuition)
Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, CaryThe Triangle Area
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As always, rankings are subjective and are only as good as the metrics behind them.
Both schools are generally well regarded and that's all that matters (also rankings won't tell you how well regarded a school is in a specific subject matter per say)
Yup. For the health sciences I would think UNC. For engineering.....NCSU. I know that both schools participate in a joint degree in biomedical engineering.... to leverage their individual strengths.
Related, considering funding, look at federal research dollars flowing into health care research -mostly from the NIH. The Triangle, between UNC and Duke, is tops in the nation (topping even Boston -hello Harvard and Seattle -UW and Fred Hutch). Health care, biotech, pharma, and clinical research is BIG BUSINESS around here.... and that is probably an understatement.
Apparently, if you are interested in stats, data science, biostats...etc... you are also living (the Triangle) in the national epicenter. Possibly, the world epicenter. Duke, UNC, NCSU are all in the top 11... for what it's worth. Imagine, if all their resources were "pooled".
Really, NC is blessed with lots of great and highly regarded college options and programs. It really is envied, and rightfully so, for its' in-state post-secondary educational opportunities. Let's not forget, Wake Forest, ECU, APP, and UNCW. I know I am forgetting some. These schools are all ranked higher than some states' "Flag Ship" Universities. Now, if only the same could be said for NC's primary and secondary education.
Side note: What is interesting is that UW Seattle is "only" ranked 40th in the USNWU national rankings. However, also put forth by USNWU, is their global university ranking; in which...... wait for it.....UW is ranked 6th in the world! How can it be 6th in the entire world but only 40th in the USA?? One of life's great mysteries I guess....keeps things interesting
Side note: What is interesting is that UW Seattle is "only" ranked 40th in the USNWU national rankings. However, also put forth by USNWU, is their global university ranking; in which...... wait for it.....UW is ranked 6th in the world! How can it be 6th in the entire world but only 40th in the USA?? One of life's great mysteries I guess....keeps things interesting
They are two different rankings. The national universities rank is for undergraduate education. The global university ranking is about research output and reputation.
Also, I think the Bay Area with Stanford at #1 and Berkeley at #2 might have an argument about stats. (Not to mention Davis at #13 is just outside the area.)
But yes, the Triangle is certainly a fantastic area for higher education.
Yup. For the health sciences I would think UNC. For engineering.....NCSU. I know that both schools participate in a joint degree in biomedical engineering.... to leverage their individual strengths.
Related, considering funding, look at federal research dollars flowing into health care research -mostly from the NIH. The Triangle, between UNC and Duke, is tops in the nation (topping even Boston -hello Harvard and Seattle -UW and Fred Hutch). Health care, biotech, pharma, and clinical research is BIG BUSINESS around here.... and that is probably an understatement.
The recipients of NIH funding in the Boston area is more fragmented than the Triangle's heavy concentration with Duke and UNC. The NIH report shows MA as a whole is ahead of NC by a little over a billion dollars in funding ($3.2B to MA vs $2.1B to NC) and MA Congressional District #7 (Cambridge, suburban Boston, et.) in particular had $2 billion in funding alone and roughly the same as all of North Carolina's awards combined.
78% of North Carolina's awards went to Congressional District 4 (Durham, Burlington, RTP, Chapel Hill), receiving $1.7 billion.
The Triangle performs really well given the population of the region is less than 2.5 million, competing with the likes of the San Francisco Bay Area and Boston, and obviously is one of the top pharma regions in the country and world. This concentration in a region this size is very unique as the Bay Area and Boston are so much larger as metro areas. The Triangle alone is receiving about 4.6% of all NIH funding in this country on its own, which very much outpunches its weight.
Looking at state level, the outperformers relative to population:
California, 14.8% of NIH dollars, 11.8% of US population
New York, 9.2% of NIH dollars, 6% of US population
Massachusetts, 8.8% of NIH dollars, 2.1% of US population
Maryland, 6.5% of NIH dollars, 1.8% of US population
Pennsylvania, 6% of NIH dollars, 3.88% of US population
North Carolina, 5.8% of NIH dollars, 3.11% of US population
Big underperformers relative to population:
Texas, 4.8% of NIH dollars, 8.7% of US population
Florida, 2.3% of NIH dollars, 6.4% of US population
This is great! Both UNC/NCSU (and most of UNC system schools) are shown progress. It's interesting to see UNC/UVA dynamic with this ranking (which by the way focuses undergraduate education). With almost 3 times larger endowment at UVA (close to $15B) than UNC (about $5B), it's like quasi private, and UVA has many traits of private than public.
This is great! Both UNC/NCSU (and most of UNC system schools) are shown progress. It's interesting to see UNC/UVA dynamic with this ranking (which by the way focuses undergraduate education). With almost 3 times larger endowment at UVA (close to $15B) than UNC (about $5B), it's like quasi private, and UVA has many traits of private than public.
Unless I am mistaken, UVA is a public university, regardless of the size of its endowment. UNC is often referred as a "Public Ivey" as well as the oldest public university. Seems it just jumped one notch in the rankings.
UVA is a public school with a private tuition rate. It’s like $40-50k annual tuition for in-state students. That’s about what out-of-state pay at UNC and State.
UVA is a public school with a private tuition rate. It’s like $40-50k annual tuition for in-state students. That’s about what out-of-state pay at UNC and State.
Not sure where you git your figures from. UVA doesn't charge that much for in-state tuition.
UVA is a public school with a private tuition rate. It’s like $40-50k annual tuition for in-state students. That’s about what out-of-state pay at UNC and State.
How much is UVA tuition in-state 2023?
University of Virginia-Main Campus - Tuition & Fees, Net Price
The 2023 tuition & fees of University of Virginia-Main Campus (UVA) are $20,342 for Virginia residents and $55,914 for out-of-state students.
UNC-CH in-state tuition 2023
For the academic year 2022-2023, the undergraduate tuition & fees at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is $8,989 for North Carolina residents and $37,550 for out-of-state students.
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One of life's great mysteries I guess....keeps things interesting 
