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Asheville is just as bad....I have been laid off since May 1. Just now getting interviews after all this time. However they are out of state (the Mid-West and West) so we will probably be leaving NC. Been here 21 years, employed 19 years.
Asheville is just as bad....I have been laid off since May 1. Just now getting interviews after all this time. However they are out of state (the Mid-West and West) so we will probably be leaving NC. Been here 21 years, employed 19 years.
......they are in positions where they are exploited -- working highly skilled jobs for very low pay, renewable year to year.
I was thinking the same thing. The pay does not come close to matching the job descriptions for lab jobs. Typical requirements are a PhD or masters plus specific job skills plus x number of years of experience and the pay is like $20-$22/hr. ?? I really don't get it. Besides the exploitation aspect, how can a person live in this area on that kind of a wage? It is expensive to live here.
I've had alot of recruiter activity this week and have many irons in the fire at this point. I am also working on a Plan B and Plan C. I will take a huge pay cut if I do Plan B or Plan C but I will not sit here and wait forever either.
I don't know...I don't think it's that we don't have jobs...we just don't have enough jobs for people moving here just expecting to get a job right away. I still don't understand the point in moving here if you have no job lined up already...unless a spouse etc got one first.
$20-$22/hr. ?? I really don't get it. Besides the exploitation aspect, how can a person live in this area on that kind of a wage? It is expensive to live here.
the pay is like $20-$22/hr. ?? I really don't get it. Besides the exploitation aspect, how can a person live in this area on that kind of a wage? It is expensive to live here.
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Originally Posted by wjsluvskaz
I have been wondering this myself.
Are you serious? I'm all for people getting paid what they are worth, but being able to live off of $22/hour is more than doable. I know many who live off much less and lead happy lives.
I was thinking the same thing. The pay does not come close to matching the job descriptions for lab jobs. Typical requirements are a PhD or masters plus specific job skills plus x number of years of experience and the pay is like $20-$22/hr. ?? I really don't get it. Besides the exploitation aspect, how can a person live in this area on that kind of a wage? It is expensive to live here.
I've had alot of recruiter activity this week and have many irons in the fire at this point. I am also working on a Plan B and Plan C. I will take a huge pay cut if I do Plan B or Plan C but I will not sit here and wait forever either.
I suppose one needs to consider if the pay being offered is what others are earning do the same work? If folks are earning $20 hr for work you are qualified for, do you really think you can get $25 hr or more? Seems that one has to accept the current pay scale (even if it is BELOW previous earnings) or look elsewhere for employment.
One cannot holdout for more $$ when the market is only paying at a certain level?
I accepted a $15K pay cut to take a job here. The options were being homeless and unemployed in MI, or going to several other states, most of which were on a similiar pay scale as NC...the better paying states all had inclement weather (SNOW) higher utilities, and other costs associated with living in a colder climate area.
So far we are doing so much better than we had been in MI. In mI it was day-to-day survival. Here we have actually been able to travel EVERY weekend to the ocean, mountains, or just travel around the Triangle area.
I understand what that feeling of exploitation is like...In Michigan I would be earning close $70K this year with my experience and education...IF THERE WAS A JOB there...
Are you serious? I'm all for people getting paid what they are worth, but being able to live off of $22/hour is more than doable. I know many who live off much less and lead happy lives.
In a North Raleigh house?
$20/hr Is an good wage. (I would be happy with it right now) I think the point was that it is low for an advanced degree and experience.
Indeed. I've been unemployed 5/mos and counting. ERP Software Consulting. I've responded to and applied to >250 jobs, locally as well as mutiple states. I have been frustrated but not given up hope. I know you'll continue to work with your recruiters ( as I have) to do all you can to land something. I wish us all the best in this search and market.
JMS1,
Which ERP are you into? Peoplesoft?? there are some positionst at UNC,chappel hill.Did you try ther?
$20/hr Is an good wage. (I would be happy with it right now) I think the point was that it is low for an advanced degree and experience.
Exactly, if you are effectively out of the workforce as a graduate student/intern/fellow from the age of 20-30, people often have a little "catching up to do" (to put it mildly) when they enter a job after all that training. And, we're not talking about expecting an orthopedic surgeon salary, here, just a wage slightly above "average" to compensate for being in training for about 10 years . . not because those people are better than others, just because they have had to been living of grad student stipends for so long they have no savings or equity in real estate or anything.
But this totally goes beyond what is going on here in the Triangle. It is a major disfunction in the scientific field in this country and will lead to even fewer people wanting to go into STEM, if they can't recoup the cost of their educations. One advantage international students have in this respect is that they don't have undergrad student loans.
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I was thinking the same thing. The pay does not come close to matching the job descriptions for lab jobs. Typical requirements are a PhD or masters plus specific job skills plus x number of years of experience and the pay is like $20-$22/hr. ?? I really don't get it. Besides the exploitation aspect, how can a person live in this area on that kind of a wage? It is expensive to live here.
