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OP, you could message a moderator to move this to the Architecture forum, to see if you get any ideas from the home remodelers there, that we haven't already thought of. But it seems like the kitchen space is already pretty well maximized.
I'm not entirely sure how old the cabinets are I suspect they are built in place but would need to go scrutinize. I'm not quite following the suggestion there - do you mean having shorter cabinets next to the oven?
The open shelved pantry area does not have a door there - it's open to the dining room (with the door to the basement in between).
Because then it's annoying but part of the cost of selling to spend $10k on getting it to sell. Not so much when you're already losing a lot of money.
My idea was that in that space the absolute best kitchen would have normal depth (30in) cabinets all along the window wall. The window would be shorter, of course. You'd have wall, fridge, counter, sink, counter, oven counter, wall. You'd have uppers, with a nice wide gap around the window. Then on the interior wall you'd have 12 or 15 inch deep cabinets, either lowers and uppers the whole way along with a nice long stretch of counter space or a mix of a couple floor to ceiling style pantry cupboards and some counter space. But it would cost $3-4000 just for the cabinets, let alone moving the plumbing/electrics for the sink and stove and at least some new countertop. And I don't want to think about the cost for the window. What sort of siding do you have? You'd need to be 100% sure that it would sell the house. I'm surprised it hasn't sold to someone who wants to take that wall out entirely and keep the stove where it is in an island. The space is perfect for that.
But, is that pic showing two doors from kitchen to dining room? If you redid the kitchen I'd definitely block one off. That is easy to do.
Because then it's annoying but part of the cost of selling to spend $10k on getting it to sell. Not so much when you're already losing a lot of money.
My idea was that in that space the absolute best kitchen would have normal depth (30in) cabinets all along the window wall. The window would be shorter, of course. You'd have wall, fridge, counter, sink, counter, oven counter, wall. You'd have uppers, with a nice wide gap around the window. Then on the interior wall you'd have 12 or 15 inch deep cabinets, either lowers and uppers the whole way along with a nice long stretch of counter space or a mix of a couple floor to ceiling style pantry cupboards and some counter space. But it would cost $3-4000 just for the cabinets, let alone moving the plumbing/electrics for the sink and stove and at least some new countertop. And I don't want to think about the cost for the window. What sort of siding do you have? You'd need to be 100% sure that it would sell the house.
But, is that pic showing two doors from kitchen to dining room? If you redid the kitchen I'd definitely block one off. That is easy to do.
Spending $10K won't make the room bigger. Might as well just lower the price $10K than do all that work with no guarantees of it being sold and have to possibly lower it again after you invested more money.
Spending $10K won't make the room bigger. Might as well just lower the price $10K than do all that work with no guarantees of it being sold and have to possibly lower it again after you invested more money.
I'm not convinced that it's the actual size of the room which people have a problem with, it could just be that it doesn't look easy. They've bumped back the cupboards on either side of the stove, the fridge is kinda built in, but the cabinets are super shallow. There's that big gap where the window is. It's just confusing, and in searching for a word, people use 'small'. The OP said many houses around them have smaller kitchens and they're selling.
But yes, I wouldn't spend $10,000 unless I had a guarantee it would make it sell, which is impossible. If it were a $500,000 house I'd totally do it.
These are like what I'm thinking of - shallow on one wall, normal depth on the other, with the shallow wall either full height cabinets or tops and bottoms.
Because then it's annoying but part of the cost of selling to spend $10k on getting it to sell. Not so much when you're already losing a lot of money.
My idea was that in that space the absolute best kitchen would have normal depth (30in) cabinets all along the window wall. The window would be shorter, of course. You'd have wall, fridge, counter, sink, counter, oven counter, wall. You'd have uppers, with a nice wide gap around the window. Then on the interior wall you'd have 12 or 15 inch deep cabinets, either lowers and uppers the whole way along with a nice long stretch of counter space or a mix of a couple floor to ceiling style pantry cupboards and some counter space. But it would cost $3-4000 just for the cabinets, let alone moving the plumbing/electrics for the sink and stove and at least some new countertop. And I don't want to think about the cost for the window. What sort of siding do you have? You'd need to be 100% sure that it would sell the house. I'm surprised it hasn't sold to someone who wants to take that wall out entirely and keep the stove where it is in an island. The space is perfect for that.
But, is that pic showing two doors from kitchen to dining room? If you redid the kitchen I'd definitely block one off. That is easy to do.
Oh, people have wanted to take out the wall behind the stove, but the center hall staircase is there. And yes, there are two entrances from the dining room to the kitchen.
Oh. I hate staircases in the middle of the house! Gah! Is vinyl siding easy to cut? I've only wanted to mess with the siding in a house with tin, and the whole house would have had to be redone. Needless to say we didn't do it.
I just had another thought - what if the counter continued along in front of the window, with a stool pushed under it. More counter space, but looking more like a fancy cafe counter than a storage solution on wheels? Would it crowd the stove?
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I suspect they are built in place but would need to go scrutinize. I'm not quite following the suggestion there - do you mean having shorter cabinets next to the oven?
