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It's only been "rare" since the 50's housing boom allowed so many stuffed cheek by jowl since the 20's to get out.
Or people who can really get along together
in the smaller places they can actually afford..
That means CAN'T leave. I don't see it as being a desired 'choice' anywhere. Do you?
(peculiarities of the Italian mama's boys notwithstanding)
It's a tough question to answer. You frame it in terms of "desired choice" when in fact it might be "best option" or something as inevitable as aging itself. There are cultural components to it as well; not just Italian Mama's boys...
Well, the OP asked about "conventional wisdom" so I gave answers based on NORMAL housing markets, not insane unicorn places like Berkeley, where people pay insane prices to live in s&*$boxes because IT'S CALIFORNIA.
Would fetch 500k+ in Northern VA. Several hundred thousand in a few dozen other markets besides most of Coastal California/Seattle. 250 per square foot, for prime residential land, would be 10,000,000 per acre..Cheap by Hong Kong or Singapore standards, heard some larger numbers in Vancouver, too.
Would fetch 500k+ in Northern VA. Several hundred thousand in a few dozen other markets besides most of Coastal California/Seattle. 250 per square foot, for prime residential land, would be 10,000,000 per acre..Cheap by Hong Kong or Singapore standards, heard some larger numbers in Vancouver, too.
OK, now come out of the clouds and let's talk about the entire rest of the USA.
Topeka, Kan.
Tulsa, Okla.
Indianapolis, Ind.
Manchester, N. H.
Richmond, Ind.
Houston, Tex.
Boise, Ida.
Fresno, Calif.
Spokane, Wash.
This is what I mean by normal markets, not Hong Kong or Singapore or NOVA (basically DC, lots of gummint money) or coastal CA or Seattle. Actual normal places where the majority of the US population actually live.
There are some newer developments being built not that far away where homes listed as "2 BD, 3 BA" (weird, I know) are going for north of $300k. I would question the numbers but several individual listings are written that way, 2/3. Curious if this is a retirement community.
The former mayor of Houston, Bob Lanier, and his wife, lived in a high end high rise building, and had a 6,000 sq ft place that had 1 bedroom and 6 bathrooms, your basic 1/6. They did a lot of entertaining, but never had overnight guests.
The former mayor of Houston, Bob Lanier, and his wife, lived in a high end high rise building, and had a 6,000 sq ft place that had 1 bedroom and 6 bathrooms, your basic 1/6. They did a lot of entertaining, but never had overnight guests.
I once bought a 2 BD because it was freshly remodeled
In buying mine, the lack of outside interest was ominous. It felt like I was about to make a bad choice. But for a household that would at most be a childless couple, it just made sense. About 30% less than comparable 3 BD properties. It allows us to save more and indulge more in other areas of life. It's on about an acre of land so plenty of privacy.
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When did you buy it?
Do you still live there?
In retrospect, are you happy with the decision?
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I would take a 2/2 over a 3/1 any day of the week.
What is the logic behind this?
Why are people placing such a massive premium on a 2nd full bathroom?
So, if you had kids, you would put them in a bunk bed before dealing with 1 bathroom.
I assume people don't want 1 bath since others will need to smell your stunk up poo scent.
Understandable.
But, posters have also said that 1.5 bath is just as bad a 1 bath. So, it's not about hiding your poo smell from others.
Is this due to timing of showers? 4 people need consecutive showers which can lead to morning scheduling conflicts.
What is the logic behind this?
Why are people placing such a massive premium on a 2nd full bathroom?
So, if you had kids, you would put them in a bunk bed before dealing with 1 bathroom.
I assume people don't want 1 bath since others will need to smell your stunk up poo scent.
Understandable.
But, posters have also said that 1.5 bath is just as bad a 1 bath. So, it's not about hiding your poo smell from others.
Is this due to timing of showers? 4 people need consecutive showers which can lead to morning scheduling conflicts.
A second bathroom will be used every day. Even if you're a DINK, it's nice not to have to share the bathroom with overnight guests, it's nice if you and your spouse are both getting ready for work or a night out, if you have one kid, it's nice to to have to share the same bathroom with them all the time, etc.
A second bathroom often assumes an en-suite master bathroom; which is nice in and of itself. When we have company, there's no need to scrub our bathroom and hide my wife's 40 bottles of hair products, or my medication, etc.
homes listed as "2 BD, 3 BA" (weird, I know) ........
Not really weird. Those are very likely to be two en suite bedrooms plus a guest bathroom so your dinner guests don't walk through your bedroom to use your toilet, while helping themselves to a quick inspection of your medicine cabinet.
What's a DINK? I assume the last two letters are no kids?
Double Income, No Kids.
Even as a single person the minimum number of baths I'd consider is 2.5 (one master, one guest, one powder room). Ideally the greater of a 1:1 bedroom/full bath ratio plus one half bath.
The 2BD/3BA homes I've seen are 3 story townhouses where both bedrooms are on the third floor, and there's a living space/den/study/something on the first floor. 2 full baths, each attached to their respective bedrooms, plus one half bath each for the other two floors. Your overnight guests have their own bath, you have your own, and your dinner guests use the half baths.
I personally don't have a problem with them as long as the total number of spaces and the square footage are the same vs. a 3 bedroom but 2-bedroom homes seem to sell at a discount to 3 bedroom houses of similar square footage and take longer to sell. I think it depends on the demographics of the market it's in though....in an area full of singles and DINKs they won't have as much trouble selling as an area where the primary demographic is families with their 2.2 children and 1.5 dogs.
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