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Old 09-24-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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My friend put an offer in on a foreclosure. His offer was accepted, he signed the PA & the ammended PA last week. The inspection was last night and was really good. Then today his realtor calls him saying he just received a phone call saying the bank (who currently owns the foreclosure) just accepted another offer. Can they do that? What about the money he just spent to have the house inspected?? Will the bank reimburse him for that?

I was under the impression that after the buyer signed the PA the Seller could not accept any other offers. Any advice?
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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The banks usually include language in their purchase addendum that they can accept new offers up until they sign the addendum. Did your friend actually get the addendum back from the bank with the bank's signature?

The way this works is the bank will verbally accept, then send their addendum for the buyer to sign, then the bank signs after they get the buyer's signature. All of this can take several days.

Up until the bank signs, they can still accept another offer. Starting inspections prior to bank signature is a risk, but sometimes necessary given that some banks start the clock ticking on inspection period from verbal acceptance. In this situation, your friend is probably out the inspection cost.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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That depends. If the property was being sold as a short sale (which would actually be pre-foreclosure, but some people don't know the difference, so I'm just saying), then in the contract somewhere, there should be something that says the sale is contingent on bank approval. In that case, the seller's signature really means not much of anything, and the bank can opt to reject the first place offer and take a different one, even if it isn't what the seller agreed to. Really lousy of the other agent not to let your friend know there were other offers on the table before your friend spent money getting an inspection done.

And no, the bank probably won't reimburse for the inspection, but you might be able to get the actual buyer to buy it from you, since they will probably want to have one done anyway.

If it really was a foreclosure, that the bank already owned, then I would say he had better double check his paperwork for any contingencies he didn't remove or deadlines he didn't meet. Because on a bank owned, usually if the buyer and seller have both signed, the seller cannot just choose to take another offer.

UNLESS they were accepting another offer in backup position and you still have the first chance to buy the house. You said your friend has a realtor, they should be able to tell him why this was a legal thing, or why it wasn't.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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The banks usually include language in their purchase addendum that they can accept new offers up until they sign the addendum. Did your friend actually get the addendum back from the bank with the bank's signature?

The way this works is the bank will verbally accept, then send their addendum for the buyer to sign, then the bank signs after they get the buyer's signature. All of this can take several days.

Up until the bank signs, they can still accept another offer. Starting inspections prior to bank signature is a risk, but sometimes necessary given that some banks start the clock ticking on inspection period from verbal acceptance. In this situation, your friend is probably out the inspection cost.
Yeah, that would be a perfect example of an unmet contingency. On our offers, there is a box on the signature page that says "signature subject to..." and you mark "counter offer #___" or "addendum #____". There's one on the buyer's signature place for addendum and one on the seller's signature place for both. If there is something like that, then it isn't a done deal without that paperwork signed.

The only difference locally, is that they don't accept verbally, they accept with a signature subject to an addendum. A verbal acceptance is worth as much as the paper its written on. Verbal communication is only negotiation, nothing is accepted until it is signed.
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Old 09-24-2009, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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... The only difference locally, is that they don't accept verbally, they accept with a signature subject to an addendum. A verbal acceptance is worth as much as the paper its written on. Verbal communication is only negotiation, nothing is accepted until it is signed.
I agree, however, the banks play by their own rules. You either go along or don't get the house. At best, we get an email from the bank's agent confirming the acceptance along with the addendum to sign. If you've seen a Fannie Mae agreement, they specifically state that all time frames start from their "verbal acceptance" date.
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Old 09-24-2009, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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They did that to me last week on a full price, no inspection contingency offer. The listing agent said they took another offer because it wasn't for a USDA loan. I'm still failing to grasp why an asset manager cares about the loan types.

But then again, If I ever meet someone who confesses to be an asset manager, I may not be able to control my tongue.
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