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Old 06-16-2010, 09:06 PM
 
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It's too late so just throwing it out there something that's been on my mind.

I was a training class, people there were anywhere from 20 to 60 years old. There was one woman, very tiny, thin, short buzz cut, androgynous type. She manages to make almost everyone feel that they are becoming her best friend. This is not a high school by any means, and people are training to get a job. Yet this whole circle of light emerges where she is the center of. She definitely makes the place more fun to be in, and I am still not sure how she does it.... not very consciously I think.

This training for many people is a temporary stop to move on onto better jobs when an opportunity arises. So she does the same, just disappears one day, and the pain of emptiness in the classroom is pure physical. Not so much with me, as I have been more of aloof in that class... But it does seem like the environment is duller... The younger married guy wanders to me and asks me, if I heard anything from her. The pain of loss in his body language is unreal. I tell him that he did "friend" her on Facebook (I don't do Facebook) so why doesn't he ask her himself.

I go and check out her FB page. She's got tons of friends, lots of them I think are like us, temporary in her life. I figured out that she is mostly looking after herself, moving from place to place (homes and jobs) to make her and her daughter's life better. In the process, though, she touches people in this weird way that leaves deep impression on people. I still don't know whether she is doing it on purpose, or if she doesn't even know that she possesses something. She must have an idea, though, from all those FB requests.

I go for a blood test and meet her working there at a hospital. We do a little chat but we both know that we won't "keep in touch" as we say. This whole thing leaves me puzzled, after years of conditioning that "all people are unique and valuable". Yet some of them have undeniable - animal? social? - magnetism.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:18 PM
 
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This whole thing leaves me puzzled, after years of conditioning that "all people are unique and valuable".
I can't help you here as I don't believe in this. Unique they are... since it means "one of a kind." "Of value"... not necessarily.

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Yet some of them have undeniable - animal? social? - magnetism.
Yes, some are charismatic and some are not! I think it's easy to tell when it's natural and when some just try too hard to be liked by all, which is quite pathetic in my book. Being charismatic is not necessarily a sign of being a good person, though. Some of the biggest sociopath are very charismatic!
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:21 PM
 
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People tell me I have irresistible charisma. That was an actual quote.

I already knew it, but knew it in a different way. I just take control of every conversation, even in a group of 10. This is a reason other guys hate me, coz 2 minutes into the gathering, everyone's listening to my musings. It's not my fault that I have the gift of the gab
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:23 PM
 
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People tell me I have irresistible charisma. That was an actual quote.

I already knew it, but knew it in a different way. I just take control of every conversation, even in a group of 10. This is a reason other guys hate me, coz 2 minutes into the gathering, everyone's listening to my musings. It's not my fault that I have the gift of the gab
You sure they didn't say "mighty annoying"...?
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:26 PM
 
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You sure they didn't say "mighty annoying"...?
<offers Si a hug and a passionate kiss of all kisses>
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Pa
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It's too late so just throwing it out there something that's been on my mind.

I was a training class, people there were anywhere from 20 to 60 years old. There was one woman, very tiny, thin, short buzz cut, androgynous type. She manages to make almost everyone feel that they are becoming her best friend. This is not a high school by any means, and people are training to get a job. Yet this whole circle of light emerges where she is the center of. She definitely makes the place more fun to be in, and I am still not sure how she does it.... not very consciously I think.

This training for many people is a temporary stop to move on onto better jobs when an opportunity arises. So she does the same, just disappears one day, and the pain of emptiness in the classroom is pure physical. Not so much with me, as I have been more of aloof in that class... But it does seem like the environment is duller... The younger married guy wanders to me and asks me, if I heard anything from her. The pain of loss in his body language is unreal. I tell him that he did "friend" her on Facebook (I don't do Facebook) so why doesn't he ask her himself.

I go and check out her FB page. She's got tons of friends, lots of them I think are like us, temporary in her life. I figured out that she is mostly looking after herself, moving from place to place (homes and jobs) to make her and her daughter's life better. In the process, though, she touches people in this weird way that leaves deep impression on people. I still don't know whether she is doing it on purpose, or if she doesn't even know that she possesses something. She must have an idea, though, from all those FB requests.

I go for a blood test and meet her working there at a hospital. We do a little chat but we both know that we won't "keep in touch" as we say. This whole thing leaves me puzzled, after years of conditioning that "all people are unique and valuable". Yet some of them have undeniable - animal? social? - magnetism.
Not to boast, but I tend to have it. My co-workers swarm me when I come in. It's called good social skills and well with communicating.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:30 PM
 
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People tell me I have irresistible charisma. That was an actual quote.

I already knew it, but knew it in a different way. I just take control of every conversation, even in a group of 10. This is a reason other guys hate me, coz 2 minutes into the gathering, everyone's listening to my musings. It's not my fault that I have the gift of the gab
BS'ers also possess this ability!
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:38 PM
 
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BS'ers also possess this ability!
With the right delivery techniques and body language, BS becomes oration

Some people take it one step further with a device they nowadays call a teleprompter LMAO

I'm Antlered Chamataka and I approve this message
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:39 PM
 
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I can't help you here as I don't believe in this. Unique they are... since it means "one of a kind." "Of value"... not necessarily.
Ha ha. My 1st grader has a class where they are taught that every one of them is valuable. Basic foundation training. Kinda nice foundation. Let the skepticism arrive much, much later.

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Being charismatic is not necessarily a sign of being a good person, though. Some of the biggest sociopath are very charismatic!
When we met last time when she worked at the hospital, I noticed a glint of "I don't really need you anymore" half-thinking in her eyes... I don't really care, it is just puzzling if that was an act? - no once can do that kind of act without some pre-disposition. She must have basic charisma, and then re-enforces it with her friendliness.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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With the right delivery techniques and body language, BS becomes oration

Some people take it one step further with a device they nowadays call a teleprompter LMAO

I'm Antlered Chamataka and I approve this message
LOL....You've got my vote babe!
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