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Why not give it to him if he is willing to raise it.
Why not give it to him to bear and give birth to.
You are forgetting, between conception and giving the baby away, there is also this little matter of pregnancy and childbirth. One person should not have a legal right to force another to go through it.
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Originally Posted by lisalan
He actually makes a heck of alot of sense. I agree with what he said and I'm not Iranian. Its shows you have morals and values.
Indeed. Your morals and values apparently dictate that coercive power of governments should be used to compel women to bear children at men's command. It's only a short step from there to straight-up forced impregnantion. I mean, if a man really, really wanting to be a father is reason enough to force a woman to undergo pregnancy and childbirth, it can very well serve as the reason to inseminate her against her will too.
So, say the hypothetical father agrees to pay for the woman's medical expenses as long as she signs over her parental rights. Is that what he wants? To be a single dad? Just culturally, I don't think a lot of men have any idea what full-time solo parenting entails.
Fathering a child is easy. A man can potentially father hundreds of children over the course of his lifetime. There is no logical argument for a man to force an unwilling woman to bear a child. None.
[quote=Redisca;15656103]Why not give it to him to bear and give birth to.
You are forgetting, between conception and giving the baby away, there is also this little matter of pregnancy and childbirth. One person should not have a legal right to force another to go through it.
Indeed. Your morals and values apparently dictate that coercive power of governments should be used to compel women to bear children at men's command. It's only a short step from there to straight-up forced impregnantion. I mean, if a man really, really wanting to be a father is reason enough to force a woman to undergo pregnancy and childbirth, it can very well serve as the reason to inseminate her against her will too.[/quote]
Valid point. Actually I have a girlfriend who called me today saying her boyfriend removed the condom during their last encounter and she wasn't aware until the act was over. She said if she's preggers she will keep the baby however they have to get married as she feels that's a fair exchange for getting her pregnant without her consent.
Your morals and values aren't the same as someone else's, and they aren't necessarily better.
They aren't bad that's for sure LOL Last time I checked people were allowed to express their opinions on this forum and I am anti abortion and will stand up for that
Why not give it to him to bear and give birth to. Ummmm.... becasue last time I checked men who were born men can't get pregnant. If they could carry a baby I'd be all for it
You are forgetting, between conception and giving the baby away, there is also this little matter of pregnancy and childbirth. One person should not have a legal right to force another to go through it.
That's your opinion....frankly.
Indeed. Your morals and values apparently dictate that coercive power of governments should be used to compel women to bear children at men's command. It's only a short step from there to straight-up forced impregnantion. I mean, if a man really, really wanting to be a father is reason enough to force a woman to undergo pregnancy and childbirth, it can very well serve as the reason to inseminate her against her will too.
That is exagerrating now. No one is condoning forced impregation All these excuses trying to get around the fact that taking the life away from an innocent child is ok....don't think this thread was about abortion so why not focus back on what this thread is about and stop attacking MY PERSONAL MORALS AND VALUES. No one is going to be able to change my mind so stop trying
Fathering a child is easy. A man can potentially father hundreds of children over the course of his lifetime. There is no logical argument for a man to force an unwilling woman to bear a child. None.
That is your belief however many many people would disagree with that.
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