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Old 09-24-2010, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Loving yourself is hard, but if you don't, who will want too? If you don't even love yourself?
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I know I am unattractive and I can't do much about it. So when I see more attractive people I give them loads of crap to equalize and bring down their quality of life.
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100% fugly here .

What's also an advantage for us is that except for brief moments at the mirror, we don't have to look at ourselves!
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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Unfortunately, you could be the most beautiful person on the inside but if people can't get past your looks, they'll never find out. Without turning this into a gender-bashing thread, I've made the same observation as you about many women. I know one who's probably 5'1" or 5'2" and refuses to date a guy under 5'10". While I can understand why women want a guy who's taller than them, why 5'10"? You're 5'1" and you're going to dismiss a guy because he's 5'9"? And I don't except men from this cause I know they're just as guilty, if not more. I suppose it's also a function of age. When you're young, you certainly prioritize looks more than you do when you're older.

I find this wildly bizarre. I can tell you there's never been a huge market for 6'1" tall women, either!
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I find this wildly bizarre. I can tell you there's never been a huge market for 6'1" tall women, either!
It seems to me, at least, that there is a worse stigma for really really tall women, worse than for short dudes.

At the grocery store that I shop at, there is the one tall lady that I see there once in a while, She's gotta be 6'6'' or better, not kidding. I see her and I try not to stare she's so damn big as well as being tall. She could kick that crap out of me and not break a sweat.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:19 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Admit or not,some people are deemed attractive,or very attractive while others are not.

There are tons of people less attractive to others,especially people of opposite sex.Very few people pay attention to less attractive people.

Fortunately or unfortunately,I realize the fact I am a less attractive person and I am single all my life(at least by now).

I'm curious to know whether other less attractive people know the fact that they are not very attractive and how their lives are.
IDK, I've got mixed feelings on this subject. My whole life I've been complemented on my looks, My parents would introduce me to people and they say things like, "what a handsome young man" things along that order. I once over heard a girl telling another that she thought I was an "8", which I suppose is a good thing.

I never felt like I was attractive, I was shy and insecure most of my life. Still am to a degree, although its getting a lot better.

IDK, looks are all bullshyt if you ask me. Its a facade. Most of the most charming and smart people have been people that aren't overly good looking. I think sometimes really attractive people tend to rely on their looks a little more than they should. My SO has a SIL that was that way, now she's in her 50's and not aging all that well. She seemed like she never really developed herself as a person, cause whenever we speak with her she seems dim witted and socially a little off. IDK, maybe I'm just being harsh. She not looking all that great and has nothing going on upstairs. Kind of sad really.

One of the most "attractive" traits to me is a pure and genuine humility. When you see really attractive people and they are firmly rooted in reality, that too me, is a very very attractive trait. I once saw Reese Witherspoon in an interview and she seemed very down to earth and geniune. Same with George Clooney, IDK if it is real, but they sure seemed down to earth.

Edit: BTW, I'm no longer an "8" I need to drop a few pounds to be in the 6 or 7 range. LOL j/k

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Old 09-25-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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It seems to me, at least, that there is a worse stigma for really really tall women, worse than for short dudes.

At the grocery store that I shop at, there is the one tall lady that I see there once in a while, She's gotta be 6'6'' or better, not kidding. I see her and I try not to stare she's so damn big as well as being tall. She could kick that crap out of me and not break a sweat.
Oh definitely there's a stigma, as you so aptly demonstrate, hehehe. And in this country where everything is available, the choices and places for buying clothing are even very limited for us. If I were 5'2" and weighed 300 pounds, I could jump in my car right now and find several stores within 10 minutes' drive to buy something to wear, but I can only buy most things from catalogs/on the Internet. That works for me, since I'm not a shopper. There are more of those choices available to me now than when I was young, though, and when my mother was growing up there was nothing for her.

People do funny things when you are a tall female, too, and not just ask if you play basketball. Like many commuters to New York City, I wear sneakers for the walk from train to train and over the concrete to my office, where I keep (flat) office shoes under my desk. Almost every single day, some man looks up at me, then looks at my feet to see if I've got heels on and then looks back up in amazement that yes, I really am this tall. Some days it amuses me. Some days it annoys me, and now that I'm older and have earned the right to be cranky and crazy, I say sarcastic things to the top of their bald little heads as I pass by.

By the way, my ex-husband is 6'4" and pretty good-looking. And an alcoholic jerk. So much for height in a male being the primary advantage. To top it off, he's 54 years old, not balding yet, and the bastard is just getting his first grey hairs now. Ah, but who said life was fair.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:31 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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What's also an advantage for us is that except for brief moments at the mirror, we don't have to look at ourselves!
I've come up with one of my crackpot theories on this subject. I don't think we were ever "meant" to have mirrors, photos, etc. I don't think we can quite handle seeing our physical selves, especially the aging process through photos. Before all of this wonderful technology, you and your family/friends/tribe? would realize everyone gets older and dies, but it wouldn't be thrown in your face so dramatically, LOL.

Also, if you didn't know what you looked like, your real personality might come shining through; it wouldn't be tied to how you looked, or whether it was good enough, and people might respond to you more positively.

This is good timing for this post, because we are looking through old photos of ourselves right now.

Like I said, just another one of my crackpot theories that have no basis in scientific fact or reality.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:39 PM
 
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I've come up with one of my crackpot theories on this subject. I don't think we were ever "meant" to have mirrors, photos, etc. I don't think we can quite handle seeing our physical selves, especially the aging process through photos. Before all of this wonderful technology, you and your family/friends/tribe? would realize everyone gets older and dies, but it wouldn't be thrown in your face so dramatically, LOL.

Also, if you didn't know what you looked like, your real personality might come shining through; it wouldn't be tied to how you looked, or whether it was good enough, and people might respond to you more positively.

This is good timing for this post, because we are looking through old photos of ourselves right now.

Like I said, just another one of my crackpot theories that have no basis in scientific fact or reality.
Hey, I like this crackpot theory.

Another thing--I remember reading a question in a column once wherein someone asked why when she saw a picture of herself in a group, everyone else looked normal but she didn't feel she looked like herself. The answer was that we only ever see ourselves in a mirror image, but when we look at a photo we are seeing ourselves as others do. No one's face is exactly symmetrical, so we when look in a mirror we are seeing something in reverse from what other people see.

That's kind of depressing, because I don't look too good in photos, either. My daughter took a photo of me this summer that I didn't think was too bad. The reason was that she is much shorter than I at 5'6" and she stood on a bench and shot the photo. Most people are shorter than I am, so they are taking a photo that's looking up from beneath my chin and not catching the face straight on.

What's funny is when I am cringeing looking at a photo of myself and someone says, "hey that's a great picture of you." I'm thinking "Really? If you think this is a GOOD photo, just how bad do I look normally????"
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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Admit or not,some people are deemed attractive,or very attractive while others are not.

There are tons of people less attractive to others,especially people of opposite sex.Very few people pay attention to less attractive people.

Fortunately or unfortunately,I realize the fact I am a less attractive person and I am single all my life(at least by now).

I'm curious to know whether other less attractive people know the fact that they are not very attractive and how their lives are.
It's definitely not always on my mind, but I do think that I am less attractive than all my friends. I keep telling myself that perhaps I'm a late bloomer in my adulthood. I still don't know. Somehow I can't rate myself in the "looks scale" because it'll make me feel worse about myself, ha. I tell myself that being less attractive is probably a better way of admiting to myself than rating myself even though I know I am less attractive either way. It's definitely something that I struggle with since I was a teenager. Can you image just having one of your sister joking that you're the ugliest and the doctor keeps saying "is she adopted" in a joking way? Hmm...But I will come to understand myself and appreciate myself in the future.

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Old 09-25-2010, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Aside from the general burdons of life, I guess my life is okay. Relationshipwise my life is misery and I'm not that unattractive.
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