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Old 01-12-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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I think we need to update our gender studies.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:19 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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I don't want to put anyone "on the spot" so to speak; so, I will try to keep it more generic. What if we consider some songs as "examples".

According to Stevie Nicks, some women prefer "sweet little lies" instead of "words and deeds walking hand in hand" as stated by Madonna in her song.

How is a nice guy supposed to reconcile those two "opposite" points of view from women who always claim to want a relationship as much as guys always want sex; and, are usually willing to clam that honesty is a form of respect toward fellow human beings.

Consider that simply, and honestly, stating with words and deeds walking hand in hand for sex, is usually a considered a "turnoff" for many women here on this board who were willing to comment on that form of honesty.

What are some ramifications for nice guys who prefer honesty as a form of words and deeds walking hand in hand?

Consider a ramification for some women; a nice guy may have said, the chick who was honest with me the whole time is the one that gets a church wedding and a long term, legally binding social contract, 'till death do us part; he could be honest knowing none of the women involved were that honest.
I'm still not following. What is this truth that you wish men were allowed to say? What is the bride supposedly lying about?
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:12 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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If you weren't interested enough to follow the conversation, why should a nice guy confide in your sincerity concerning the rest of the logic and reason of the conversation? It could be considered another market based metric.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:29 AM
 
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If you weren't interested enough to follow the conversation, why should a nice guy confide in your sincerity concerning the rest of the logic and reason of the conversation? It could be considered another market based metric.
I have been following the conversation. I have been reading and not responding. If you would rather continue to obfuscate, I understand. Have fun with the porn.
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Old 01-13-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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There are still plenty of unanswered questions that could clarify what the topic was about; I don't mind having fun multitasking with porn, in the meantime.

Should nice guys confide in the sincerity of gender studies which claim women are better at multitasking than men? I think most nice guys would have fewer problems with women if we had better technical manuals on them.

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Old 01-13-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Is it wrong for a nice guy to ask a girl friend if she can let him practice full body massage and explore his happy camper policy?

What do you chicks think of a hypothetical, better relationships bureau, as a form of social infrastructure? It may better provide for the general welfare of our posterity.
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Would any nice guy have any problems with women, if he can afford to have women come over and just love him and just be with him; even if only for a short term relationship with her. Most guys are willing to strive to produce a better product at a lower price; and as we all know, practice makes perfect. As a moral and ethic, what is wrong with that?
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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Is that just something women say? If it is, then I expect them to say the same thing in this thread. Women will almost always say that they are looking for a nice or good guy but I think most know women seem to be attracted more to men who mistreat them and put them down. You know, guys who are not nice. So, why do women constantly say that they are looking for a "nice guy" when in reality that is not what they want because that is not what they choose? Do they say that just in case word of it gets back to their Mother or Father?
Its not hard for women to find a good man it just hard for them to find a good man that they are ATTRACTED to.
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Old 01-13-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure they had sex though.

Not having kids does not equal celibacy.
Yes, but I'm not the oldest virgin on city data.
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:00 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Would women object to a nice guy being honest with them and claiming he would like a potential girl friend to shave or wax him for a vasectomy if sex is not a requirement?
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