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Old 07-31-2011, 01:09 AM
 
Location: USA
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Well the Bible was written what a couple thousand years ago? I wouldn't use a business marketing plan from the 1990's so why would I follow something that's ancient? Seriously. I do believe you can have sex too early in a relationship, but you can't have a romantic relationship without sex. You have to change and evolve. I don't know anybody that's willing to be in a relationship, (dating), without having sex.
Touche' I usually don't give much credibility to people who thought the world was flat and wrote books that were impossible to follow.
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Iowa
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Go ask all the unwed teenage mothers who don't know where the baby's daddy is. Gosh, how many of those have I met.. Isn't premarital sex a great thing? Also, I would save the raging HIV epidemic in Africa could have been reduced if people had sex within marriage. However, many others will advocate condom use. But, abstaining from premarital sex would be even more effective. Not just premarital, but extramarital, as well.
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Old 07-31-2011, 06:15 AM
 
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Go ask all the unwed teenage mothers who don't know where the baby's daddy is. Gosh, how many of those have I met.. Isn't premarital sex a great thing? Also, I would save the raging HIV epidemic in Africa could have been reduced if people had sex within marriage. However, many others will advocate condom use. But, abstaining from premarital sex would be even more effective. Not just premarital, but extramarital, as well.

But isn't that a pretty narrow interpretation? "Premartial sex" can mean anything from sleeping with your fiance before the wedding OR only sleeping with people you are dating steadily, with protection OR behaving like the kids on Jersey Shore OR anything in between.

Teenage pregnancy IMO is more about people not being mature about contraception. So because some teens are not using birth control, people in their 20s and/or people who DO use birth control should wait? To me, that sounds a problem with maturity, not premarital sex.
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Old 07-31-2011, 07:13 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Touche' I usually don't give much credibility to people who thought the world was flat and wrote books that were impossible to follow.
No one ever thought the world was flat...all those misconceptions come from a work of fiction about Columbus written in the 1800s. You do realize Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth around 200 BC, right?
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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I was raised Christian, so yeah I know the religious theme behind this...but if we can ignore the verses in the Bible that condone slavery, then why not this one?

I ask this simply because I disagree with this premise. Sexual compatibility is an essential part of any marriage (NOT the only thing mind you, but it's important). If two people in a relationship practice abstinence till marriage, then come to find out that they want different things sexually then what?

What if one spouse wants certain sexual practices that the other is against? eg oral and everything else, and the other spouse doesnt approve, can you see yourself going a lifetime? Isnt this just encouraging the deprived partner to go outside the marriage?

What if the male has, let's call it 'undersized equipment' can you women see yourselves going a lifetime with that? (and no self respecting man is going to confess this to you beforehand. Sorry. Dont believe that one)

Some women find sex painful/unpleasant for a variety of reasons...can the men go on without it/once in a blue moon?

Some men don't like sex very much (rare I know but I have heard of this) can women deal with that?

Some of these issues can be discovered by talking about it that's true, but there are other things that you will just have to go through to know if it works for you or not. And no, I dont see people just suffering in silence for the next 20, 30 or 50 years (depending on how old you are). This isnt 1940 anymore. Divorce is not taboo, but why not potentially avoid that issue before hand?

And finally, let me reiterate, sex is not the ONLY component of a good relationship, so if your spouse ok let's be real, if your man is sleeping with you with no intention of marrying you then obviously your relationship was never strong to begin with. I'm talking about serious partners here.

What do you guys/gals think?
Here are the reasons why :

1. The Creator mandates no sex before marriage for good reasons with you in mind.
2. When you have sex , your Soul starts to be cemented to each other . It is not just a physical act as our careless and apathetic Culture would have us believe. When the relationship ends , our Soul gets harmed .. sometimes long lasting.
3. Sex is designed to cement one another i the context of lifelong commitment and is the most intimate revealing venue two people can share. It is supposed to be in a healthy environment of total trust so the relationship can build and marriage can be further enhanced.
4. You dont have to worry about catching 1 of 33 circulating STD's now shared by over 68,000,000 adult Americans ... 2 which are fatal .
5. You dont have to worry about your Partner just using you for a copulation then moving on to the next conquest.
6. You dont have to worry about pregnancy out of wedlock.
7. If pregnancy occurs, the best environment for that child is a 2 parent Marriage as deemed by the Creator for the maximum healthiness of the child.
8 . If pregnancy occurs and an abortion is performed, there is long lasting shame and guilt especailly on behalf of the Mother , and there is a large increase of the mother getting breast cancer in addition to depression and anxiety because she knows she authorized killing of her developing baby.
9. There is no 100% effective birth control , except for abstinence.
10. If abstinence is maintained , the Marriage Partners experience the greatest blessing on their wedding night because they can offer each other total sexual purity ... a rich gift .
11. Premarital sex puts the focus on what the other person better do for me ... which encourages self centeredness and a superficial relationship .
12. Premarital sex is encouraged by an out of control sexually deviant Culture/Media with no responsibility to what happens to a Participant . We should avoid such apathy when it is directed specifically toward us.
13. Premartial sex is not all its cracked up to be ... it is a tradeoff of personal integrity and right living , for immediate gratification ... very often at great expense.
14. Whenever WE choose to be the standard for living instead of the all wise and powerful Creator who made us, it almost always fails because rejecting his protective moral laws results in harm to ourselves and to others.
15. Premarital sex serves to cloud many emotional issues people have so they cant be readily seen, and/or, excuses are made regarding them because the physical has taken control .
16. Premarital sex is an emotional fraud commited on the Other (who is seen only as a mere copulation) .
17. Premarital sex is seen as an entitlement , which is a distorted self absorbed view promoted by an out of control Media (for its own financial gain) .
18 . It further helps to willfully suppress ones moral conscience for the sake of temporary fulfillment.
19 . It is a slick fraud perpetrated on Oneself because it allows another person to know Us in the most intimate way which fools us into thinking there is much more to the relationship than what there really is.
20 . The resulting devastating facts of premarital sex can be seen in every society on earth which makes it universally wrong.
21. Your life is not just all about you and getting your needs met at any expense including the expense of others ; we are expected to live above reproach which greatly benefits us and the Nation we live in. A Nation where its people are narcissitic via unrestrained hedonism, will be a Nation of moral degradation ------- exactly what we see in the USA .
22. Your genitals wont fall off if they are not used till a later date and if they are used correctly, you will never be sorry.
23. Disobeying our carnal nature is a virtue and so is putting the Creator ahead of our own self centered nefarious desires (which will be rewarded in a person) .

Its your choice ... live making excuses that the above is 'old fashioned' so you can do as you want , or, live with purposeful intrgrity and its benefits. We reap what we sow....whether good or bad.
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Malaysia
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Whew! I thought sex is supposely about bonding relationships with commitment and understanding that such action can result in fostering and nurturing love between two mature persons.

I didnt know that I'll be damned to eternity of darkness and sorrow by my act before being blessed by the priest. Forgive me for I have sinned. However, I was told ""Let him or her who is without sin cast the first stone."
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:08 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I didnt know that I'll be damned to eternity of darkness and sorrow by my act before being blessed by the priest. Forgive me for I have sinned. However, I was told ""Let him or her who is without sin cast the first stone."
Don't worry, everyone is damned to Hell already; you won't be alone.
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Victoria Woods, CA
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Default Is your question answered, OP?

It's strange how this thread has turned into mostly a religious fight between people adament that their view is the right one. Open your minds, folks, and you may be surprised what you can learn from the other side. Leaving this thread to the religious zealots and others....good luck and I don't believe the OP has checked back in to give her/his views on the opinions/views....mmm-m-m, talk about an experiment to see how people get riled up....
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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While I can see God and anyone who is Christian being big time against swinging, casual sex, pornography, etc....I think God (at least the Christian God), if he was around physically today and most religious leaders, while they may not say "go out and fornicate", would think that there are a boatload number of much more serious problems and sins, then 2 consenting adults mutually making love to each other and filling a human need, married or not.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Hawaii
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Religious folks are entitled to express their opinion as much as anyone else. Having said that, the OP did specifically state that he was already well versed in the Christian viewpoint of pre-marital sex and he wanted to hear other reasons besides religious ones. That's actually what attracted me to this thread and why I thought it was an interesting subject and a good question.

In a nutshell the OP's question is: Aside from religious teachings, why abstain?
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