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Old 10-06-2011, 06:25 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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For the purpose of this thread (and to enlighten me, LOL), let's try to talk about male bitterness towards women. (although we could go the other way sometimes, as well, variety is the spice of life & it could add to the conversation)

What sort of bitterness, you ask? The sort that comes from repeatedly trying to build something with a girl and repeatedly failing. Whether it's the fact that she wants to be friends without telling you that in the first place & wasting your time, or standing you up or repeatedly changing first dates, etc. Repeated lack of success can really wear down on a guy. (& a girl as well, I imagine)

This could result in some level of bitterness. Not exactly unsurprising, eh? But what do you guys think of that? Is it fair and expected for someone to become bitter after holding their head up high each & every time & hoping for the best & constantly failing? Or are they bad people for giving in to their emotions & becoming slightly bitter?

And to the girls, how would you recognize the signs of bitterness emanating from a guy? Do you realize that if you liked him, the bitterness could go away? But you wouldn't like him because he's bitter. Such a Catch-22

Anyways, just wondering what you guys think of this.
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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Are you asking this question because you're starting to become bitter.
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Are you asking this question because you're starting to become bitter.
I was hoping that would have been self-evident. I've been feeling the stirrings of bitterness for a while now, unfortunately. Can you blame me? Heh.
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:40 PM
 
Location: The Valley
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It's one of two inevitable outcomes. To settle or to become a bitter cynic.

Do what makes you happy
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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What sort of bitterness, you ask? The sort that comes from repeatedly trying to build something with a girl and repeatedly failing. Whether it's the fact that she wants to be friends without telling you that in the first place & wasting your time, or standing you up or repeatedly changing first dates, etc. Repeated lack of success can really wear down on a guy. (& a girl as well, I imagine)

I think it's only human to becomes bitter towards the oppersite sex when you've been dumped on so much. The question is how long do you let it eat you up before you rise above it & move on?
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Blah
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You're single right? Don't ask me how I can tell...
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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you're single right? Don't ask me how i can tell...
That would be my guess lol
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:22 PM
 
Location: GA
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I have come across bitter men. They are the one's that tend to intently "stare into your eyes" while asking you question after question trying to find some "flaw" in you/your answers. They imagine all women are out for freebies and to get over. What bitter men fail to realize is their role in the situation. People reveal who they are long before they cause you damage. Men should not get mad who let their delusions overide their rationality and mind. We all play a role in our theatre shows.
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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You are asking some very difficult questions but they are good to ask yourself. Sorry if I sound preachy.

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Whether it's the fact that she wants to be friends without telling you that in the first place & wasting your time
The world doesn't work how it *should*. The world is the way it is.

People look out for their interests. Are you? Hoping that somebody will be direct so they don't waste your time is expecting somebody else to look out for your interests.

The thing is, not being direct is how a person can have power over you if you allow it.

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Do you realize that if you liked him, the bitterness could go away? But you wouldn't like him because he's bitter. Such a Catch-22
Again, you are expecting somebody else to look out for your interest. It is not in your interest to be bitter but you hand over that power to somebody else.

It is okay to be dependent on direct language. Your option is to find a person who also enjoys direct language.

Just to be funny:

Do you like me? Yes or No. Circle one and not the "or."
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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You are asking some very difficult questions but they are good to ask yourself. Sorry if I sound preachy.



The world doesn't work how it *should*. The world is the way it is.

People look out for their interests. Are you? Hoping that somebody will be direct so they don't waste your time is expecting somebody else to look out for your interests.

The thing is, not being direct is how a person can have power over you if you allow it.



Again, you are expecting somebody else to look out for your interest. It is not in your interest to be bitter but you hand over that power to somebody else.

It is okay to be dependent on direct language. Your option is to find a person who also enjoys direct language.

Just to be funny:

Do you like me? Yes or No. Circle one and not the "or."

LOL @ the last sentence. Now, as to the "people look out for their interests" vein of thought.....why the hell is it that it is in a girl's interest to be FRIENDS with me, but not MORE than friends? I mean, seriously? If you don't want to date me, then why hang out with me at all? Get a freakin' puppy if you want a friend.

Why do girls want guys as friends when they know the guy's attracted to them? Is it an ego stroke BS thing?
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