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I am old fashion...I believe men should ask a woman out.
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Originally Posted by Veyron
SO will you?
I mean a guy will see the signs a woman is into him, that being done. HE SHOULD ASK HER OUT.
I mean guys these days are getting so lazy, that they want women to do everything.
Just because women are independent. We are independent professionally yes, can make it on our own, make our own money. That has changed.
Roles have changed a little that women, now a days HAVE TO HELP men, bring in the bacon, something they can't do alone anymore. But women are not slaves, that they have to work, be housewives, be lovers, mothers, and etc.
Men should share responsibilities with house chore, but that is another topic.
The point is that MEN, should be men. And do his paper, his role, as a man and ask a woman out. I mean do we women have to do everything.
My question is: Why do men complain, that they are the ones to wear the pants in a relationship, and women should let them do their jobs as men? That, he should lead, be the head of the relationship?
Lead how?
If he wants the woman to ask him out? Then men complain about women wearing the pants in the relationship.
No longer single so not applicable but should I ever be available no I don't think I would approach a man.
What I used to do as a single girl was to gently "push" men towards approaching me...
Give them a hint and send the right signals that you are interested but without being forward. I am almost pathologically shy and pretty old fashioned and do prefer a man to make the first move but there are subtle ways to nudge a guy in your direction ! It used to work beautifully !
I mean a guy will see the signs a woman is into him, that being done. HE SHOULD ASK HER OUT.
I mean guys these days are getting so lazy, that they want women to do everything.
Just because women are independent. We are independent professionally yes, can make it on our own, make our own money. That has changed.
Roles have changed a little that women, now a days HAVE TO HELP men, bring in the bacon, something they can't do alone anymore. But women are not slaves, that they have to work, be housewives, be lovers, mothers, and etc.
Men should share responsibilities with house chore, but that is another topic.
The point is that MEN, should be men. And do his paper, his role, as a man and ask a woman out. I mean do we women have to do everything.
My question is: Why do men complain, that they are the ones to wear the pants in a relationship, and women should let them do their jobs as men? That, he should lead, be the head of the relationship?
Lead how?
If he wants the woman to ask him out? Then men complain about women wearing the pants in the relationship.
Confused.
Ok so if men have to do the asking then what does the women do to even the effort?
Like you say men should share the responsebilities but then it's the men who are doing everything.
Men ask you out.
Men call you and contact you all the time.
Men do the paying.
Men do equal cooking and cleaning.
So what does the women do?
You keep saying that women shouldn't have to do everything. That's the thing. You are not doing everything. Not even close. Infact the man puts in MORE effort than you.
It's women who expect to keep all the traditions in your favor and remove those who are not.
Women expect the man to take all the initatives and always risk rejection. Women expect to be the breadwinner. Women expect that the man does his part in the cooking and cleaning.
You say men should do their role and do the asking out art. Then women should do their role and do all the cooking and cleaning
It's a personal choice. I made my effort and a fool out of myself enough times. If someone wants me around they will make the effort.
That is not that high a number for a lot of men.............
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I am old fashion...I believe men should ask a woman out.
