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Old 04-24-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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I've worked at least part-time throughout college including the last 3 years full-time. That is what I know.
In other words, what you know about a professional workplace would fit on the head of a pin. Part-time ain't full-time.

Look, if you're about to hit the world of work, I'd dump the attitude really, really fast like a bad habit. Unless, of course, you really do want to be a barrista for the rest of your days. There are actually plenty of companies that do indeed reward talent and hard work. There are plenty of companies that do indeed give a rip about their employees and make decisions about pay and benefits accordingly. Walk into the world of work with this, "I'm going to do the bare minimum to get by" mentality, and you'll look up at age 32 and realize that you're barely getting by in life.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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In other words, what you know about a professional workplace would fit on the head of a pin. Part-time ain't full-time.

Look, if you're about to hit the world of work, I'd dump the attitude really, really fast like a bad habit. Unless, of course, you really do want to be a barrista for the rest of your days. There are actually plenty of companies that do indeed reward talent and hard work. There are plenty of companies that do indeed give a rip about their employees and make decisions about pay and benefits accordingly. Walk into the world of work with this, "I'm going to do the bare minimum to get by" mentality, and you'll look up at age 32 and realize that you're barely getting by in life.
I know there are companies out there like you described, problem is I just ain't at one of them. I have no incentive whatsoever to work my way up. I'm trying to get somewhere that allows me that but the only thing my current gig allows me to do is pay bills and that is all.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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I know there are companies out there like you described, problem is I just ain't at one of them. I have no incentive whatsoever to work my way up. I'm trying to get somewhere that allows me that but the only thing my current gig allows me to do is pay bills and that is all.
Then work harder. Get more responsibility. Make it count. THEN change jobs.

I think your attitude however is unrealistic at this point. Your first job out of college isn't going to be paradise. Take your lumps, pay your dues for a year or two, and then move on.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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What is so wrong about being content? So men aren't allowed to settle once we earn more than enough? I suppose 70k/yr isn't enough for some people. Sounds like more entitlement nonsense.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Infernuan
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What is so wrong about being content? So men aren't allowed to settle once we earn more than enough? I suppo
se 70k/yr isn't enough for some people. Sounds like more entitlement nonsense.
There isn't a damn thing wrong with it and anyone who says otherwise is a damn fool. A damn fool who's been brainwashed by this insane society and culture that is always pushing for 'more more more'... just had a Morgan Spurlock moment there, think 'Super Size Me' if you don't get the reference, but I digress...

Look, if you're happy making $70k/yr, great. $25k/yr, terrific. $200k/yr, awesome. Whatever. Why should ANYONE aside from YOU give a flying **** how much you make?
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:40 PM
 
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Ambition doesn't necessarily equal money.

Ambition is about getting up today and wanting to be better than you were yesterday (for yourself).
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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There isn't a damn thing wrong with it and anyone who says otherwise is a damn fool. A damn fool who's been brainwashed by this insane society and culture that is always pushing for 'more more more'... just had a Morgan Spurlock moment there, think 'Super Size Me' if you don't get the reference, but I digress...

Look, if you're happy making $70k/yr, great. $25k/yr, terrific. $200k/yr, awesome. Whatever. Why should ANYONE aside from YOU give a flying **** how much you make?
Thank you!!!!
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Infernuan
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Ambition doesn't necessarily equal money.

Ambition is about getting up today and wanting to be better than you were yesterday (for yourself).
In the dating world, yes it does. When a woman - usually a younger one, btw - says she wants a dude with 'ambition' that's code for $ (or £, if you prefer). No way around it.

A struggling novellist/playwright/screenplay writer/whatever can have lots of 'ambition' but if he isn't bringing in the $/£ then it's no-go with the nubile chicks. Sorry, have a nice day and thank you for playing. Now go back to your basement and munch on your Cheeze Puffs and drink your Coke and have fun with yourself.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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In the dating world, yes it does. When a woman - usually a younger one, btw - says she wants a dude with 'ambition' that's code for $ (or £, if you prefer). No way around it.

A struggling novellist/playwright/screenplay writer/whatever can have lots of 'ambition' but if he isn't bringing in the $/£ then it's no-go with the nubile chicks. Sorry, have a nice day and thank you for playing. Now go back to your basement and munch on your Cheeze Puffs and drink your Coke and have fun with yourself.
Okay I am a young female. I am ambitious enough for 5 people. I would LOVE a struggling novelist/play-write/artist etc as I am a professional writer myself. I'd take ambitious creativity over ambitious stuffy white collar any day. But that's just me.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I am extremely ambitious and expect my man to be equally as ambitious. I have ended relationships because of a lack of motivation. It is definitely high on my priority list, right under being intelligent.

Same here, I find ambition to be a very admirable quality in a man. If he cant get motivated to find a job or improve his station in life, how certain could I be that he wont feel motivated enough to take care of me, the house, or our kids if we had any???..my dad wasn't ambitious at all, and it pains me to admit that when I bought home C's on my report card in elementary school his only response was "well thats passing right? ok, good." whereas my mom completely went hay-wire, grounded me and demanded I bring home at least A's and B's on my next report card...My mom was always unhappy about the inequality of goals in their relationship - my dad did the bare minimum to earn an income and that was it. The idea of me wanting to even attend graduate school made him scratch his head!!!
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