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View Poll Results: Which would you choose? You could have as much money as your heart desires or a chance at true love?
I'm a woman and I choose a chance at true love 39 22.54%
I'm a woman and I choose as much money as my heart desires 35 20.23%
I'm a man and I choose a chance at true love 34 19.65%
I'm a man and I choose as much money as my heart desires 65 37.57%
Voters: 173. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-27-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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Are you saying that I'm wrong for working to make as much money as I physically can?
Nope do what you think will make you feel happy. I am just having a philosophical debate and stating my opinion on the matter between choosing to have real love in your life or lots of money. You may have both, but the question was to choose between the two.

The philosophical question is, what makes you truly happy and wealthy in life. My opinion is having nice things might bring some sort of satisfaction but without emotional happiness you soon realize that all the stuff your money bought is just superficial.

See, I have lived both sides of it, I have lived where a couple years I sat alone on Christmas feeling down because nobody I cared about was around. I have nice things for me anyway and I enjoy them but they don't mean much when you are feeling like nobody cares about you. Sure it is nice to be able to buy a amp or guitar on a whim, but I also realize love of life and the very simple things of looking around me and soaking it in or having somebody that you care about and cares about you around is more important than chasing coin. For the last few years I am back in close contact with real friends, and I have not been alone like on Christmas since and that is wealth worth more than coin.

As far as real love between a woman and I, well that still eludes me for now. But I know how rare that is so if it happens hell yeah I'd rather have that then boat loads of money.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: TX
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The OP suggests an infinite amount of money if that's what you want. Since the question is completely hypothetical, it doesn't matter how realistic it is
I was addressing those who commented on how easy it would be to maintain that lifestyle for the rest of your life, compared to how easy it would be to keep your true love with you. I say they're about the same in this regard. Infinite money is, of course, infinite; but so is true love. That's the whole point of distinguishing it from "love" in the first place.

Beginning in the OP itself, there is a clear bias that assumes the money will always be present and the "true love" could still vanish. The problem is that the OP draws the following conclusion from the results of the poll:

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The intent behind the question was to figure out what women and men value most between love and money. It's a if you had to choose question.

The results are pretty obvious Most women put emphasis on love and most men put emphasis on money.
For all we know the results actually indicate a preference for what's permanent. It certainly does not mean anyone who chose the infinite supply of money values money more than love. Not when "true love" is supposedly something that could still vanish at any time. It'd be like me asking "Would you rather have $5 or the love of your life forever?" and then claiming the results prove love is the winner over money.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Nope do what you think will make you feel happy. I am just having a philosophical debate and stating my opinion on the matter between choosing to have real love in your life or lots of money. You may have both, but the question was to choose between the two.

The philosophical question is, what makes you truly happy and wealthy in life. My opinion is having nice things might bring some sort of satisfaction but without emotional happiness you soon realize that all the stuff your money bought is just superficial.

See, I have lived both sides of it, I have lived where a couple years I sat alone on Christmas feeling down because nobody I cared about was around. I have nice things for me anyway and I enjoy them but they don't mean much when you are feeling like nobody cares about you. Sure it is nice to be able to buy a amp or guitar on a whim, but I also realize love of life and the very simple things of looking around me and soaking it in or having somebody that you care about and cares about you around is more important than chasing coin. For the last few years I am back in close contact with real friends, and I have not been alone like on Christmas since and that is wealth worth more than coin.

As far as real love between a woman and I, well that still eludes me for now. But I know how rare that is so if it happens hell yeah I'd rather have that then boat loads of money.
We'll agree to disagree but I'll take the money. Love won't help me reach my personal goals and my personal worth isn't wrapped up in someone else.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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looks like I am not the lone male voting here lol
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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my personal worth isn't wrapped up in someone else.

Plenty of people fall into that trap of defining themself by their special other, but what I am talking about is that real love is when you feel your own personal worth but when you meet the right special other they compliment you, they are a extention of your self worth or self-being.

Its called being your own person (self worth or self love) who extends their life into someone elses also
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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Plenty of people fall into that trap of defining themself by their special other, but what I am talking about is that real love is when you feel your own personal worth but when you meet the right special other they compliment you, they are a extention of your self worth or self-being.

Its called being your own person (self worth or self love) who extends their life into someone elses also
MEH - true love has absolutely nothing to do with self worth.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:11 PM
 
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All the older people I've ever spoken to said to me that love is BS and it only happens in movies. They have the experience, so they're probably right.


people say money doesn't buy happiness. I disagree with that. I bet it does. Nobody actually needs love.


You need money tho
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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MEH - true love has absolutely nothing to do with self worth.
I didn't say that. Gawd some of you just don't get. Do you feel self worth because someone smoozes up to you to get money from you and you can afford to buy her affection or do you have self worth because someone really cares about you?

Do you want a girlfriend who stays around because you sugardaddy her who otherwise couldn't care less about you or do you want someone who really loves you?
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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I didn't say that. Gawd some of you just don't get. Do you feel self worth because someone smoozes up to you to get money from you and you can afford to buy her affection or do you have self worth because someone really cares about you?
Neither.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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I didn't say that. Gawd some of you just don't get. Do you feel self worth because someone smoozes up to you to get money from you and you can afford to buy her affection or do you have self worth because someone really cares about you?

Do you want a girlfriend who stays around because you sugardaddy her who otherwise couldn't care less about you or do you want someone who really loves you?
For me the money isn't an issue of self worth, it's a matter of simply not ever having to worry about money. Simple as that. For those of us who've never known what it's like to not have to pinch ever penny, not having to worry about money at ALL is a pretty huge deal. Almost all the stress I deal with on a regular basis is due to money, but I hardly ever think about not having true love in my life. It would be great if our society placed a greater emphasis on love than money, but it doesn't. And as long as it doesn't, money is just the more practical choice for many of us. Money is necessary, love is just a nice bonus if it happens to come your way.

As far as a girlfriend staying with me only because I have money, when I imagine having unlimited money I don't imagine having a girlfriend. I imagine doing all things I've always wanted to but couldn't afford to try. I imagine helping out my family and friends when they need it. I imagine using my money to help lots of people in need. But the thought of a girlfriend throughout all of that didn't even cross my mind. Maybe that shows how little I truly need a romantic relationship?
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