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Old 01-25-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Looking back on a long marriage with someone the only thing that I can offer that I should have seen as a red flag was that he didn't like to kiss.
Interesting I wonder if that applies to Women who are on the DL to.

 
Old 01-25-2013, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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Interesting I wonder if that applies to Women who are on the DL to.
I'm guessing it does but I have no idea if this is universal. Also, it was mainly during sex that he didn't like to kiss--the frenchie part you know. He loves to kiss men.
 
Old 01-25-2013, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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There ARE women who are in relationships with men who sleep with OTHER WOMEN on the side.

And how are there more downlow men than women, when there are loads more bisexual women than men in America?
Of course there are. And plenty of DL men too--went to a male stripper club one night with my friend's bachelorette party and the place was full of men--with wedding rings. I've heard that there are approximately the same amount of gay or bi men and women but society has made it more acceptable for women to show gay feelings even if they don't feel them and women are more likely to admire other women's beauty, even if they're straight. Gosh I do that and I'm strictly straight. Men's and women's bi feelings and curiosity may manifest differently but it's the same percentage of each.
 
Old 01-25-2013, 11:52 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, TX
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Usually the guys who rail the loudest against gays and homosexuality usually have a desire for a guy themselves. Some pastors and politicans come to mind.
Well incidentally one of the most homophobic guys I ever knew (and dated for a while) turned out to be bi and came out to me years later.

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Awesome post.

I'll still never forget when our receptionist, who had been married twice, looked out the office windows after this Daryl Hannah-alike 20 year old girl had dropped off some documents to the office and was going to her car. She was euphoric: "Oh my God, she's SOOOO pretty. What a beautiful girl. SOOOO pretty." All right, already. She just stood there and kept looking. Maybe that was her "type." So I asked her "Yeah, but what's her SAT score?" She snapped at me "What does that matter???" and stormed off to her desk.

When I was in college, general knowledge that a guy or a girl was bisexual, or thought to be, was always met with a chuckle and a comment such as "Weird" or "Switch hitter." It was anything BUT cool, and that includes the women.

How it's hot today, and how men have been conditioned to accept it as hot, in this intervening time is beyond me. It's not. The only thing that was hot is when one of the magazines might have done a set of twin sisters as their centerfold, and they WERE NOT touching. I've only seen that when I was a kid, so it's passe' now. If a guy is supposed to accept this, then you can't trust these women further than you can throw them, so throw them out. Also, I agree that the media needs something to talk about. The proportion of "on the DL" is probably insignificant.
Are you making a blanket statement that bisexual women cannot be trusted?
 
Old 01-25-2013, 11:57 PM
 
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Well incidentally one of the most homophobic guys I ever knew (and dated for a while) turned out to be bi and came out to me years later.
Yes, straight men don't really think about homosexual men all that much, so when a guy is obviously obsessed with homosexuals, it's because they're always on his mind.
 
Old 01-26-2013, 12:08 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Ain't this the truth? (the bold)

This term, DL, was discussed in an article about men of color in Atlanta and went from AA slang to mainstream slang.

Gotta tell a story here. One poster might consider it gossip, the others anecdotal. I used to work with this guy with Middle Eastern parents who had graduated from college about 5 years prior, worked in a nearby zone, and I went over and said "hello" for no other reason than he was new. I've always done that at work. He is sort of a cautious, quirky guy to begin with. Eventually, he's coming over to "visit" and sitting down. He then wants to go to lunch and get coffee with me fairly often. I thought he was funny, because he was so sarcastic and negative, amidst a bunch of boring dolts. He was awfully inquisitive about what I did over the preceding weekend and whether I was romantically involved. I found it humorous and just brushed off his questions.

One time, he wants to show me something on my computer. He is standing behind my chair, and puts his hand where it's kind of on my chair and my shoulder at the same time. Again, I ignored it and moved my shoulders forward, separating my back from the padding/edge of my chair. It never happened again. However, he kept asking me personal questions.

He also dated quite a few girls, did not care for people of his own ethnicity, and the women at work also got a kick out of him. He liked BSing with them. Regardless, I didn't mind maintaining a friendship with him because he had a lot to say and called it as he saw it, at lunch or if getting coffee.

The answer: people's behavior, and it may surprise someone
In Sri Lanka I met a Saudi man on the beach. He came up to talk to me, appearing very friendly. We talked for about 20 minutes. Then he talks about how he gives great massages, and then asks if I want to come up to my hotel room for a massage (and obviously more). He also says, 'sex with man, woman, is okay'.
 
Old 01-26-2013, 12:12 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Of course there are. And plenty of DL men too--went to a male stripper club one night with my friend's bachelorette party and the place was full of men--with wedding rings. I've heard that there are approximately the same amount of gay or bi men and women but society has made it more acceptable for women to show gay feelings even if they don't feel them and women are more likely to admire other women's beauty, even if they're straight. Gosh I do that and I'm strictly straight. Men's and women's bi feelings and curiosity may manifest differently but it's the same percentage of each.
Bi men are viewed as if they already have AIDS. So it's no wonder bi men aren't allowed to be in any monogamous relationships with the majority of women. Even if it's all in the past. Yet men don't seem to have a problem with a bi girlfriend or wife, a lot of them salivate at the idea of a threesome of watching her in a lesbian tryst. Of course if ever they go the full way and become lesbians he 'didn't see it coming.'
 
Old 01-26-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Of course there are. And plenty of DL men too--went to a male stripper club one night with my friend's bachelorette party and the place was full of men--with wedding rings. I've heard that there are approximately the same amount of gay or bi men and women but society has made it more acceptable for women to show gay feelings even if they don't feel them and women are more likely to admire other women's beauty, even if they're straight. Gosh I do that and I'm strictly straight. Men's and women's bi feelings and curiosity may manifest differently but it's the same percentage of each.
Just because there are a number of bisexual men doesn't mean it's the same percentage of bisexual women.

Sure some people are bisexual but doesn't realize it but there are far more bisexual women than men in America.

Right now, in Western society, lesbianism is promoted in a way that male homosexuality is not.

A straight man or woman can compliment the looks of a person of the same sex but...

Any woman who is overly emotional or overly masculine in her admiration for another woman is bisexual.

Of course, I can look at a well built man and admire his muscles and wish that I had the same muscles as he does but if I am overly emotional or overly attached to admiring men, then I wouldn't be completely straight.

Sure I can look at a man's haircut and be like: that's a cool hairstyle but I'm not OVERLY ATTACHED to admiring men like a lot of women do with other women.
 
Old 01-26-2013, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Right now in the present time, it's LESBIANISM that's rampant and epidemic not male homosexuality in America.

Most men in America have the same orientation from when they are young boys. Women, mainly younger women born in the 1980s and 1990s as a whole do not.

To the women out there, just because you haven't ACTED ON IT, doesn't mean you can't be bisexual.

If you claim to be anything other than 100 PERCENT STRAIGHT, then you are NOT straight.
 
Old 01-26-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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Just because there are a number of bisexual men doesn't mean it's the same percentage of bisexual women.

Sure some people are bisexual but doesn't realize it but there are far more bisexual women than men in America.

Right now, in Western society, lesbianism is promoted in a way that male homosexuality is not.
OK, I stand corrected in light of this article:Gay Sex vs. Straight Sex « OkTrends

And I believe that the reason has to do with the bolded above--lesbianism is promoted in a way that male homosexuality is not. So who is responsible for that? You guessed it--the media, the porno industry, it's all over the airwaves. Why? Because sex sells. And men buy it. And women thus feel free to act on desires that they might have suppressed in a time where they weren't encouraged to act on it. So I guess that makes women bad. Or does it make men bad for buying it? Or does it make the industry bad for constantly making us feel insecure about our little lives and constantly adding novelty so that we'll constantly keep spending hard earned money for their ticky tacky crap?

I'm not sure why you feel the need to constantly slam women about this--perhaps you've been burned. Well you know what ? I've been burned too and I'm guessing mine was worse b/c it all came out after a 23 year marriage but I don't feel the need to constantly point out what dogs men are. I actually still like them. So suck it up.
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