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If you are making between $30k - $70k in San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York City, Miami, DC, etc...you are NOT middle class. Sorry but those are not middle class salaries in most major metropolitan areas in this country.
So your opinion based on nothing>actual facts and research?
I understand not having an interest, or not wanting to have to support a man. But even at your age, not everyone can make sis figures. That's just not reality. I know plenty of people in these income brackets who are anything but losers. They are hard workers, smart and support their families. And most of them seem to be pretty happy, too. I think rather than write off people in lower income brackets as "losers" maybe just count your blessings that you are where you are and have what you have.
There's a difference between 6 figures and $25,000-$30,000. I look around the $50,000 range. Just like I wouldn't take a job for that amount I doubt I'd date a man who made that amount. You can't even live on your own with that amount.
So your opinion based on nothing>actual facts and research?
Interesting
Dude... you said you were 25 in another thread... that pretty much puts you in the the you don't know what the **** category when it comes to salaries...
Sorry to be harsh..
I have spent 10 yrs interviewing guys like you for work.. and training guys like you right out of college...
You're indignation about salary and pay and how it all works in the big scheme of life is silly... sorry to be harsh here.. you just don't have a clue what you are talking about......
Trust me.. the more you speak the more you are embarrassing you self...
Dude... you said you were 25 in another thread... that pretty much puts you in the the you don't know what the **** category when it comes to salaries...
Sorry to be harsh..
I have spent 10 yrs interviewing guys like you for work.. and training guys like you right out of college...
You're indignation about salary and pay and how it all works in the big scheme of life is silly... sorry to be harsh here.. you just don't have a clue what you are talking about......
Trust me.. the more you speak the more you are embarrassing you self...
Cool, except that nothing I'm saying is my opinion - I'm just showing you unbiased facts and research from 3rd party sources. That's how debates work, you actually have to back up what you're saying with something beyond "hey, that's just how I feel man"
There are people in this thread saying that 250K is middle class and I'm the one embarassing myself?
I'm a man and I agree with you. You can find a man who is financially established and who is a great catch
My sister married a man who makes 300K a year and who is a great man and a great husband. She is also absolutely gorgeous. 99.9% of women are simply not beautiful enough to get a partner like that
I absolutely don't agree with bolded statement.
I don't doubt that your sister is absolutely gorgeous, but I also know my ex's sister married a man who makes $350,000/year when she was 42 years old. She is plain looking at best.
She herself works for a fortune 500 company, makes around low six figure/year, this man is divorced wtih no kids. He looks like George Clooney.
I am sure when they go out together, many women would wonder, "what does she have I don't?" What she has is great sense of humor, caring personality, extreme intelligence, and she simply is a wonderful person.
Even after my ex and I broke up, I still couldn't think of anything bad to say about her, She's that wonderful of a person. Sex appeal is something you either have, or don't. Usually it (sex appeal) has nothing to do with looks.
This thread was inspired in part by lilyflower's question about a guy she contacted on line who had lied about his income level but later revealed the truth. That thread combined with other discussions we've had in the past form the basis for this question.
Let's do a quick thought exercise. Here are the parameters:
We have a single woman considering two profiles online. She has met neither person yet, but finds both of them to be equally attractive. Both seem like equally good prospects for our hypothetical single woman. Their profiles are identical, they list the same interests, their short write ups in their "about me" section are strikingly similar.
There is just one difference: One makes $85,000 while the other makes $250,000. As Friday Night nears, both ask her to meet for the first time, and she can only pick one of them. Now remember, the income disparity is the ONLY discriminator between the two at this point.
Is she a gold digger if she chooses to meet the guy with the higher income?
I absolutely loath how so many people throw around the term "gold digger." Oh I want someone who will be able to provide for my children and I'm a gold digger?
IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MOTHER NATURE. Men want a beautiful woman and some of us want a masculine man (can show that he can survive in the world). The next time you are about to call a woman a gold digger, consider dating a woman you are NOT attracted to. How much would that suck?
I don't doubt that your sister is absolutely gorgeous, but I also know my ex's sister married a man who makes $350,000/year when she was 42 years old. She is plain looking at best.
She herself works for a fortune 500 company, makes around low six figure/year, this man is divorced wtih no kids. He looks like George Clooney.
Exceptions are not the rule. Just because there are people winning the lottery doesn't make it likely
Your average good looking wealthy man is dating a bombshell
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Even after my ex and I broke up, I still couldn't think of anything bad to say about her, She's that wonderful of a person. Sex appeal is something you either have, or don't. Usually it (sex appeal) has nothing to do with looks.
You may have a point if you're talking about men (to a degree) but I hope you're not talking about women like that
A woman who looks like a playmate with no personality at all is 10 times more attractive to men than a homely looking woman with the best personality in the world
My sister married a man who makes 300K a year and who is a great man and a great husband. She is also absolutely gorgeous. 99.9% of women are simply not beautiful enough to get a partner like that
Lol I've seen enough "trophy wives" that were ugly as sin to know that this isn't true. Looks will only get you so far.
Just out of curiosity, what does she do for a living?
I absolutely loath how so many people throw around the term "gold digger." Oh I want someone who will be able to provide for my children and I'm a gold digger?
There is nothing wrong with that. With that being said, you don't need to earn 300K a year to provide for a family. Plenty of men provide for their family with 60 or 70K a year. Women who want a high earning man mainly just want a very easy/comfortable lifestyle with minimal financial stress
I personally don't have a problem with this but I also earn a good living myself (and will likely earn more as time goes on) so I'm not in the boat of men who earn 30K a year but still want a desirable woman to marry
Lol I've seen enough "trophy wives" that were ugly as sin to know that this isn't true. Looks will only get you so far.
I know an awful lot of wealthy men and the overwhelming majority of their wives are/were beautiful
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Just out of curiosity, what does she do for a living?
Nothing, they have 3 tiny little girls. She never graduated college
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