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Here's my thing and this is probably the last thing ill say in this thread. Its a question to some of the CD females. Why don't some women like to admit that its easier for them to get sex? This is not just this thread its what is noticed my entire time being here.I'm not trolling it's a serious question
Fixed that for you. Some women here will actually admit it. The others won't.
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I'm starting to think its some victim complex. Women are told from early that they have it harder then men at various different aspects of life, so areas where they do have an advantage they try to downplay it as much as possible because it goes against the "we have it harder" narrative
This makes sense. The answer to the OP's question is so blatantly obvious, yet the subject always changes to love/emotions/enjoyment/whatever else that has NOTHING to do with the topic. I mean, if the OP asked, "Who generally enjoys sex more often?", I will admit that I think men enjoy sex more often...however, that is not the question here. Once again the question is, "HOW EASY IS IT FOR (WOMEN) TO GET INTERCOURSE COMPARED WITH MEN?"
Now, according to zentropa, you can look at it another way:
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If we are leaving out the factor of whether the sex is wanted or not, I would say it is as easy or easier for men than women, since they have rape and prostitution as an option.
...and I agreed that although it's a reach, it's still is a valid point. So now we can take the question on a slight tangent: legal vs. illegal. In illegal terms (men raping women or soliciting prostitution), I would have to say that it would be pretty much equal in that respect. Now, if we're talking consensual, generally speaking women still have it way easier. Too bad the OP didn't elaborate on which. I think we'd still be in the same place even if it did say consensual.
In keeping with the subject of consensual, I reiterate my earlier statement:
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Let's look at it like this...how many women here have proclaimed that "men should always approach women?" I've seen many threads on this site with women who share this ideology. We're usually the ones risking rejection. Let's take it a bit further to online dating...who usually receives daily messages in bulk only to have to choose (or not) which guy to date? Sure, you would say that most aren't quality guys, but you'd still have 10-20 guys IN ONE DAY willing to sleep with you. Compare that to the YEARS I've been on dating websites and only had around 6 women IN TOTAL message me first. I'll even admit that a few friends and I each have had loooong droughts (years) despite online dating and going to bars/clubs. Bottom line, generally speaking, unless the guy is drop dead gorgeous or a celebrity, we don't have women kicking down our doors to have sex with us.
Moreover, how many women have you heard about getting in trouble for going to male prostitutes?
Of course this went ignored because I'm right. Also, gotta love this:
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What does it matter? To posters like the OP, *any* sex is the goal. If we start parsing about quality of the sex we will be back to all us feminists talking about satisfaction and safety and such. No one wants to hear that!
You're right! No one wants to hear that (at least in this thread). Remember, the question above asks "HOW EASY IS IT FOR (WOMEN) TO GET INTERCOURSE COMPARED WITH MEN?" I don't see anywhere in that question asking about quality of sex. Do that in another thread.
I agree with BradPiff on this one. Changing the subject seems like a common theme to distract and keep up the victim mentality. It's like that myth saying men make more money than women whereas I can dispute that with my job alone. Just admit that women can get sex easier than men. There's nothing wrong with that. I'd love to start a thread asking "Why can't some women here admit that women gets sex easier than men" but I'd probably have my head cut off on the first page.
B.S.! Most of these rich/famous guys have "trophy" wives/girlfriends. And the ones who don't, are sleeping around like crazy. And if you don't think part of a mans desire for financial success is driven by impressing women you are crazy.
I take it you've never worked in financial services. Ever hear of the Millionaire Next Door? I've lived in two of the wealthiest parts of the country, and I can promise you that there are PLENTY of wealthy men who have mediocre-looking wives and do not sleep around.
Also, now you're lumping fame in with it, and now you are saying "part of a man's desire..." Nice back-pedaling on both counts as you were talking about MOST men before, and making it sound like women and sex are the primary reason men strive for (or dream of) wealth.
Sure, some men have that drive. Gene Simmons will tell you the only reason he got into rock was for the women. (And look at him, both literally, as no way would he get laid without his fame, and figuratively, as he has some serious issues with sex addiction.) And I'm sure there are some sexist, penis-ruled men out there who think money is going to be all they need to buy women like commodities.
When it comes to insane wealth, MOST men seek wealth or buy that PowerBall and imagine wealth do so because boys like their toys, in plain English. They dream of the cars, the boats, the travel, the houses, the stereos, the restaurants, the casinos, the Champagne jet-set lifestyle. Maybe you lump women in with toys, but that is your own objectifying agenda.
Beyond that, the average man who wants a wife and kids seeks financial stability for his family's sake--the kids' college education, a piece of real estate where his family can live, and two cars in the garage to lug the team to soccer on the weekends.
You seem to think that men sit around dreaming of all the women they would buy with a PowerBall ticket, but I can promise you that there are plenty of men out there who wouldn't just dump their wives to become manhos just because they come into money.
What a sad, materialistic, plastic world you live in. Emotionally mature and stable men grow out of the Hugh Hefner fantasy the first time they fall in love. Then again, I wonder if you ever have.
For me to agree with it, you couldn't say it enough, because it will never happen. It presupposes that money alone buys top quality women, and I can assure you that it does not. It also presupposes that men's ambition is rooted in and based on the penis. Most men are a little more evolved than that. The reasons to dream of or pursue wealth go far beyond getting laid or finding a trophy wife. Were that not the case, you wouldn't have millionaires with plain-looking wives, of which there are plenty.
Even I'd argue this, from my own experiences from when I was a child talking to adults, even my dad.
Basically, you get women in mass quantity and also quality when you have a good job.
So, I'm going to assume that it's told by most or all boys that they should be aiming to land a job that pays well so he can have his choice of women. Leading an easier life was always secondary in the conversation.
You're right! No one wants to hear that (at least in this thread). Remember, the question above asks "HOW EASY IS IT FOR (WOMEN) TO GET INTERCOURSE COMPARED WITH MEN?" I don't see anywhere in that question asking about quality of sex. Do that in another thread.
I agree with BradPiff on this one. Changing the subject seems like a common theme to distract and keep up the victim mentality. It's like that myth saying men make more money than women whereas I can dispute that with my job alone. Just admit that women can get sex easier than men. There's nothing wrong with that. I'd love to start a thread asking "Why can't some women here admit that women gets sex easier than men" but I'd probably have my head cut off on the first page.
It's easy for women to get sex because men are easy. There, happy? I can generalize, too. It's easy for women to get sex because men make it easy for us.
If any man has a problem with that, then maybe he should talk to his brethren about not being so cheap.
The superficial pursuing the superficial...who is supposed to feel sorry for either party?
If a man's goal is to collect women like pieces of jewlery than he should expect to acquire the things that attract shallow women who want to be collected.
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Even I'd argue this, from my own experiences from when I was a child talking to adults, even my dad.
Basically, you get women in mass quantity and also quality when you have a good job.
So, I'm going to assume that it's told by most or all boys that they should be aiming to land a job that pays well so he can have his choice of women. Leading an easier life was always secondary in the conversation.
Even I'd argue this, from my own experiences from when I was a child talking to adults, even my dad.
Basically, you get women in mass quantity and also quality when you have a good job.
So, I'm going to assume that it's told by most or all boys that they should be aiming to land a job that pays well so he can have his choice of women. Leading an easier life was always secondary in the conversation.
Good grief, what kind of parents do you know?
Seriously. There is "make something of yourself so you can find a nice girl, settle down, and raise a family" and there's, "become a millionaire so you can screw showgirls in Vegas."
Somehow, I doubt most parents counsel their sons for the latter. No men in my family were counseled that way, and neither were my boyfriends. My family lost a fabulously wealthy member in his early 30s last year. You know what one of his last texts to his friends was? "Let's go to [name of posh club] on Friday so we can get shot down by women out of our league."
Seriously. There is "make something of yourself so you can find a nice girl, settle down, and raise a family" and there's, "become a millionaire so you can screw showgirls in Vegas."
This always comes up when people go on about status. Yeah there are some groupies out there, but the vast majority of men do not and will never have that kind of wealth, and the vast majority of women will never come across professional athletes or movie stars in order to be their trophy wives, nor would they want to. Most people are average, and date and marry other average people.
This always comes up when people go on about status. Yeah there are some groupies out there, but the vast majority of men do not and will never have that kind of wealth, and the vast majority of women will never come across professional athletes or movie stars in order to be their trophy wives, nor would they want to. Most people are average, and date and marry other average people.
Exactly.
All the time and effort some spend on C-D making a case for the number of women that wealthy men get, or the 90-10 "rule" (bs), etc., ect., is describing such a small subset in our society... and a subset which is really in NO WAY representative of the general social norm.
The superficial pursuing the superficial...who is supposed to feel sorry for either party?
If a man's goal is to collect women like pieces of jewlery than he should expect to acquire the things that attract shallow women who want to be collected.
You can berrate it any way you wish, it doesn't change the fact that these conversations are had at a young age from there parents and other adults.
Now, it certainly doesn't always happen, and people certainly come to reality that they aren't super attractive and can get all the women they wish, or the money they were hoping to make isn't there, so they find people with like values and other things, or doesn't find anyone.
And also, once these people mature into adults, there views change. I know these conversations were basically engrained into my way of life from the men in my family, and when I matured I realized I don't put premiums on having a bunch of things. I'm more happy about adding a little to my savings every month vs. having a new toy. Maybe that will change when I hit my mid 30s or 40s and I drop money down on a red sports car or something, but I don't see that happening.
As for collecting women and getting sex, I didn't need that either, but those conversations were certainly had often.
I know my dad wanted me to be similar to him, because if I followed what he wanted, I would have been married by 20, divorced before I hit 25, had 2 kids and paying CS on both, and married again with another child. No thank you.
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