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Man... it doesn't. The "pill" already exists and it's being used in other parts of the world. You guys living in the US of A are simply not informed on that fact, or they keep telling that people get sterile for life, women get poisoned, that it's not reliable because it's produced in 3rd world country, etc.
In fact, every attempt to produce a neem-based product is under huge magnifier and they literally ban to even use lots of stuff that MIGHT be tweaked to be used as a contraceptive. Indians are selling a contraceptive named Sensal and it isn't so cheap for their conditions but it's cheap enough to be used. On the other hand, it'd be extremely cheap in the United States if it ever gets allowed to be used.
Pharmacy companies don't want this to happen. They tried to produce "similar" stuff that is also neem-based and they tried to use "patent terrorism" to ensure huge profit. They got their patent approved in the 90s but due to large protests it got revoked. Same happened in Europe. As an answer to all that, they (ab)use government and regulatory bodies to block any attempt to have that stuff on the U.S. or markets of Western Europe. Just check out how they did everything to ensure patents over it, patenting lots of stuff. This is the same thing that happened with "the pill" (female version) which is also partly made out of herbs that were known to be contraceptives long before that.
What's characteristic is that, once again, they try to suppress even knowledge about it, so that people wouldn't try to bypass it in some way.
Bottom line is that conservatives don't want it and pharmacy companies despise it because they want huge profits. It's just like the reason why Microsoft makes new Windows versions - to earn more money without much effort and to ensure that their copyright laws are fully in effect.
I think the study I quoted says that it's not a top priority of all the US drug manufactures on the basis of the benefits vs. costs. We also do not have a population problem in the US; hence no strong priority of government, either.
I think the study I quoted says that it's not a top priority of all the US drug manufactures on the basis of the benefits vs. costs. We also do not have a population problem in the US; hence no strong priority of government, either.
U.S. government is not doing the research. U.S. laboratories never did much of a research. Only private laboratories did a research and they immediately got an approval decades ago... but it got stuck because it couldn't be "patented" (monopolized). This is why U.S. government abuses their position to block their citizens from having foreign companies importing it and selling in any legal way. It's not just U.S. government, but every government where those pharmacy industries are influential, this means even Canada, Germany, UK, Denmark, Scandinavian countries, France, Spain, Italy, etc. It might not be their "top priority to produce" but their top priority is to obstruct it instead. They've been succsesful for decades and decades and it's really funny how people aren't even informed about the fact that so-called "male contraceptive" existed as a herbal form for centuries, even thousands of years. It's probably the oldest written contraceptive herbal method that is explained in detail.
Companies were constantly re-tweaking the thing to make it more into a "pharmacy look" (pills and gels and stuff) and to avoid things that people might not like about it (i.e. its specific smell). But the end line is that the concept of that contraceptive is just about the same as it was before.
As a consequence of this medical lobby blocking neem contraceptive, various neem-based products also get affected, even though they weren't supposed to be used as a contraceptive at all.
You can't expect Republicans to vote for that, because they represent the guys who will come over and preach about the Bible and how old scriptures spoke of God killing the guy who spilled his seed, their stance is very clear about it - sex is just for reproduction and if you don't like it, don't have sex. That's at least what they preach, but it's very questionable how many politicians follow what they preach. You can't expect Democracts to ever vote for that either, because they lobbied many laws under Obama to keep feeding the overpriced medical/pharmacy industry under the pretext of helping poor. Republicans only declaratively opposed it, but the bottom line is that the same medical lobby usually funds both parties anyways and they have huge influence on everyday politics.
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That's right, the government does not do research. They set standards, review trials and approve/disapprove new drugs based on those trials meeting their standards and following "correct" procedures.
The "pill" already exists and it's being used in other parts of the world.
Do you have a link to a source for this? I'm just an ignorant American, but everything I see when doing a basic Google search indicates that it's being researched but hasn't been created yet.
Do you have a link to a source for this? I'm just an ignorant American, but everything I see when doing a basic Google search indicates that it's being researched but hasn't been created yet.
If you opened one of the links, you'd see the pills filled with jelly/oil inside of them. They take several weeks before they take full effect on the male body to cause infertility and you need to take them regularly as well. Once you stop taking pills, it reportedly takes 6 weeks to restore your fertility. It has no side-effects.
It works on a basis to make sperm immobile.
Same neem-based gel contraceptive is used as a spermicide/gel prior to sexual intercourse as well, by applying it inside of woman's vagina. It's both antiseptic as well, so it has other beneficiary properties.
Please check out the links posted in previous posts. It's being distributed in India already and India is very poor country. They'd rather just use the herbals they used already. What the research usually speaks of is so-called "RISUG" injection. It also exists over there and generally causes long-term infertility that generally requires another injectio/treatment to restore it, otherwise it take over a decade to be restored. Similar treatment also exists for women as a female contraceptive (as well as some rods and stuff) and it supposedly existed before "the pill", but people didn't find it as a comfortable option.
One specific proof on the deliberate intents by people to stop using neem leaves or refine it and brand it for use in the United States/Europe? All companies that were researching it eventually got bought and CLOSED, or they simply abandon the research soon after.
Government then uses an excuse that it is not proven to be good enough for use and deliberately bans any chance to get it refined into pills.
See my point, neem leaves/herbs/oil were used for decades in other parts of the world, many products were made over decades in those developing countries that had very limited medical industry at the time. Problem is the fact that nobody can patent it... many western companies tried to patent it and then push for it in the consumer world, but it didn't end well. I've written about it in previous posts.
At my age vasectomy is the way to go. No rugrats running around when I'm over 40, thanks.
I started young and my last will be a senior in high school this year. Almost free and clear...
Well, for those of us who didn't start early, and are fairly certain we don't want kids but are not 100% sure, and certainly don't want an unexpected one with some random hookup, the pill would be a much better option. I have a friend who falls in this category (as do I), and got a vasectomy while childless and in his 30's. I've thought about doing the same, but worry about what could happen if I change my mind in the future. The pill would be a perfect solution.
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