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Most want someone who treats them well, just not a wimp.
Many "nice guys" are in fact wimps.
That's possible, but that's the problem. If you view "being sensitive" as "wimpy," then it certainly makes sense that women would pick non-sensitive guys. But then they spend all their time complaining about how their boyfriends are jerks or don't care about their feelings. But that's what "tough guys" do, which is ignore everyone around them.
Nice guys don't usually need to be fixed. Bad boys usually do, so they become a project. Women think if they can "create" the perfect man, he will never leave them. Also, if they're busy fixing someone else, they don't have to look at what needs to be fixed in their own lives.
The 2 guys I know who gets a different girl every month are complete douches to the girls. They would literally bang their brains out and then call a cab to send the girls home afterwards. And they are hooking up with 8,9, 10s. On the rare occasion that they have a 2 week dry spell, they would be willing to lower the bar to a 6-7.
The next guy who is third place in getting girls is no guardian angel either. He would basically spend just enough to get them in bed. After scoring it's hit it and quit it logic for him. It's worked many many times.
So, both these guys can't keep a girl longer than a month -- women just use them for sex and then dump them. What was the question?
I think you'll find that most women marry a nice guy. And yes, when women are not ready for anything serious they will use guys like your friends and toss them away. What's wrong with that?
Most want someone who treats them well, just not a wimp.
Many "nice guys" are in fact wimps.
Not only that, but a lot of self-proclaimed "nice guys" are actually kind of passive-aggressive jerks with women, who think they're somehow entitled to something just for being "nice." With the douchebag guys women at least know that the jerky behavior will be up-front and honest rather than weaselly and manipulative.
So, both these guys can't keep a girl longer than a month -- women just use them for sex and then dump them. What was the question?
I think you'll find that most women marry a nice guy. And yes, when women are not ready for anything serious they will use guys like your friends and toss them away. What's wrong with that?
Right....
Using your logic, when the wife sleeps with the gardener, she is using him for sex and then dumping him afterwards when the husband returns home.
Originally Posted by NilaJones So, both these guys can't keep a girl longer than a month -- women just use them for sex and then dump them. What was the question?
I think you'll find that most women marry a nice guy. And yes, when women are not ready for anything serious they will use guys like your friends and toss them away. What's wrong with that?
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Originally Posted by techcrium
Right....
Using your logic, when the wife sleeps with the gardener, she is using him for sex and then dumping him afterwards when the husband returns home.
Right....
Um.... yes? I can't even think of what other way you could be interpreting it. Are you insane, is that why I can't understand you?
Well can we have a concrete definition of a real nice guy and a fake nice guy?
The long hair tattoo biker that looks like he could kill you with a single blow, yet always mows your grass for free without asking.....vs the pastors kid that ties a mirror to his shoe to look up dresses and is stoned on pot while doing it.
Not only that, but a lot of self-proclaimed "nice guys" are actually kind of passive-aggressive jerks with women, who think they're somehow entitled to something just for being "nice." With the douchebag guys women at least know that the jerky behavior will be up-front and honest rather than weaselly and manipulative.
That is why a guy should not try to hard to make a woman happy and just do enough to keep her.
Well can we have a concrete definition of a real nice guy and a fake nice guy?
Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are generally not nice at all. They're the guys who hang around women being "nice" (essentially being a spineless doormat) because they're trying to get laid, and they think they're entitled to a relationship with a woman just because they're "nice" to her. When they don't get the relationship, they get bitter and pissy toward the woman for choosing to date guys who aren't passive-aggressive, wimpy, and weird. Then they complain on internet forums.
That's much different from a person just being flat-out nice. Genuine niceness has no strings attached to it in the form of expected payoff.
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