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Old 12-17-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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In both these a common theme is not being able to meet women through friends, family, or work. I'm actually in a similar position, I really just don't want to date any women I know through these channels. I'd like to meet more people but I feel its shallow and useless to try to make more female friends just because I might like to date them.

My thinking has been I don't mind taking "duds" on a date and finding out we're not compatible. Do other people feel the same way? That if you don't have any friends you're interested in you might as well just pick up on people at starbucks and see if they want coffee later and learn about them then? I see that as being better than joining clubs just to meet women or spending tons of time building friendships for the sake of getting a relationship out of it.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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My thinking has been I don't mind taking "duds" on a date and finding out we're not compatible. .
Why would you take a "dud" on a date at all? If that is your impression before going out, then what value is there in going out? Seems that since you have already prejudged, you are playing with someone's emotions at that point.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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I don't think there's any right or wrong way, just do what you are comfortable with.

Women usually won't go on a date with a guy they don't at least sort of know, or her friends know him. Some will, but your chances are higher the other way.

This is partly about safety and partly about how attraction works for women. We are mainly attracted to nonvisual, compatibility stuff, and that stuff takes a while to learn about someone.

But if starbucks is working for you, go for it .
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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Why would you take a "dud" on a date at all? If that is your impression before going out, then what value is there in going out? Seems that since you have already prejudged, you are playing with someone's emotions at that point.
I thought he meant he did not realise they were duds (=incompatible) until the date had gone on for a while.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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Women usually won't go on a date with a guy they don't at least sort of know, or her friends know him. Some will, but your chances are higher the other way.
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I've talked to guys who claimed they could cold approach women and get a date at about a 50% clip. They said they could make the feel so comfortable and happy around him, they could not resist him (these guys were usually good looking as well)


hearing these stories always astonished me
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:19 AM
 
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I've talked to guys who claimed they could cold approach women and get a date at about a 50% clip. They said they could make the feel so comfortable and happy around him, they could not resist him (these guys were usually good looking as well)


hearing these stories always astonished me
Well that's cool, I guess.

It probably also depends on what you are looking for. If he's looking for a one time hookup, he just has to be good at spotting girls who are looking for the same. But if you want a real relationship, women's selection process is going to be very different. Women are not that concerned with compatibility for ONS .
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Well that's cool, I guess.

It probably also depends on what you are looking for. If he's looking for a one time hookup, he just has to be good at spotting girls who are looking for the same. But if you want a real relationship, women's selection process is going to be very different. Women are not that concerned with compatibility for ONS .

this isn't ONS (which is pretty much only the night club/bar scene), they were talking about getting dates pretty much anywhere


Think of it this way. How many women just go crazy for a movie character that they see for about 20-40 minutes in a movie? How different is that than a cold approach where you interact for 20-40 minutes?
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Oh, I thought a cold approach was under 10 minutes, and usually more like 3.

40 minutes practically is a first date . And I agree it is plenty long enough for most women to decide if they want a second one.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Why would you take a "dud" on a date at all? If that is your impression before going out, then what value is there in going out? Seems that since you have already prejudged, you are playing with someone's emotions at that point.
Well I don't think that before we go out. Just go on a date and find out we're not compatible.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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Oh, I thought a cold approach was under 10 minutes, and usually more like 3.

40 minutes practically is a first date . And I agree it is plenty long enough for most women to decide if they want a second one.
I'm usually at like 15 minutes before I ask for a number or something. I never knew this person before then either. I feel like in that amount of time she gets to know me well enough to know i'm not a creeper.
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