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Old 12-20-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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It seems in just about everything else in life, most people can accept not everyone will be cut out to do it. For example, no one will argue that the guy who failed organic chemistry 3 times after putting in all the work shouldn't become a doctor. Most people would also agree that a person who's been in the gym for 5 out 7 days for the past 3 years and still hasn't much change simply isn't cut out to be a bodybuilder.

But when it comes to relationships and dating, for some reason, this all goes out the window? Apparently, everyone is cut out for dating and relationships and it's always the dateless person's fault for being lazy and or not trying hard enough. Why is it most people simply cannot comprehend the fact that some people out there are universally undesirable to the opposite sex and were never meant to reproduce? Why is it we simply can't just say "X is simply not cut out to be in a relationship or date"? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for personal responsibility and all that, but it's quite delusional to believe that your dating and relationship prospects are based on things entirely within your control. Some people really are not meant to ever be in a relationship. Simply saying they aren't working hard enough despite going their entire life getting rejected and that they should keep trying is the definition of insanity.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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OK, you win. You are not meant to ever be in a relationship, and shame on anybody who says differently.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:25 PM
 
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OK, you win. You are not meant to ever be in a relationship, and shame on anybody who says differently.
There's no need to make this personal. I'm addressing and debunking the ubiquitous notion that is widely accepted in this forum that there is really someone for everyone, and that if you look and work hard enough, you'll find someone. Unfortunately, it has absolutely no grounding in reality.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:33 PM
 
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There's no need to make this personal. I'm addressing and debunking the ubiquitous notion that is widely accepted in this forum that there is really someone for everyone, and that if you look and work hard enough, you'll find someone. Unfortunately, it has absolutely no grounding in reality.
I agree. I am not one of those "lid for every pot" types. However, I don't believe in soulmates either, so it evens out.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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There's no need to make this personal. I'm addressing and debunking the ubiquitous notion that is widely accepted in this forum that there is really someone for everyone, and that if you look and work hard enough, you'll find someone. Unfortunately, it has absolutely no grounding in reality.
Individual perception is individual reality.
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:11 AM
 
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It's about 50% your control

But I believe the general premise. For example if Someone told you They sucked at basketball you wouldn't say "well the reason is you just don't try hard enough, you probably don't practice" you would probably accept it and say ,well he probably just sucks

But dating and relationships are seen as different

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Old 12-21-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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This has always been true, and it is much more true for males. Something that the women on this forum will never seem to admit, is that there have always been and always will be many, many excess males. Simply stated, many more males than females will never find someone.

As an example, analysis of the DNA of humans reveals that about 80% of human females that have ever lived have reproduced, but that number is only about 40% for males. Males have always been cannon fodder, though, so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Seems like we're the losers, boys...evolutionarily speaking.
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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There's no need to make this personal. I'm addressing and debunking the ubiquitous notion that is widely accepted in this forum that there is really someone for everyone, and that if you look and work hard enough, you'll find someone. Unfortunately, it has absolutely no grounding in reality.
There must a rather large reading comprehension issue on this board then. Because I know that I have said, and I have read other people to say, working hard has Not One Thing to do with it.

The issue is not whether one is "cut out" for it. The issue is what does a person WANT? I find it hard to believe that most people don't want human connection. If that takes a form of non-romantic relationships exclusively, then go for it.
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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This has always been true, and it is much more true for males. Something that the women on this forum will never seem to admit, is that there have always been and always will be many, many excess males. Simply stated, many more males than females will never find someone.

As an example, analysis of the DNA of humans reveals that about 80% of human females that have ever lived have reproduced, but that number is only about 40% for males. Males have always been cannon fodder, though, so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Seems like we're the losers, boys...evolutionarily speaking.
Well, that is one way to look at it. Then, you can consider the plight of the females that no one pays any attention to...you know, the ones that do not look like models? You probably pass by potential mates every day on your way to work, shopping, getting gas, etc., but lo and behold...all men think they deserve a supermodel with G cup boobs (on a 23 in. waist) and darn, who has time to list the other extraneous details of what she *must* have or be to be considered attractive these days. I really need to get smarter. If and when I do, expect to see your dream bishes for sale. Life like dolls that you can order to look like Beyonce, Kim K, Lima, Megan Fox, et al. A man's dream come true. Most men don't want a mate, they want a fantasy. See porn use rates.
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Old 12-21-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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Well, that is one way to look at it. Then, you can consider the plight of the females that no one pays any attention to...you know, the ones that do not look like models? You probably pass by potential mates every day on your way to work, shopping, getting gas, etc., but lo and behold...all men think they deserve a supermodel with G cup boobs (on a 23 in. waist) and darn, who has time to list the other extraneous details of what she *must* have or be to be considered attractive these days. I really need to get smarter. If and when I do, expect to see your dream bishes for sale. Life like dolls that you can order to look like Beyonce, Kim K, Lima, Megan Fox, et al. A man's dream come true. Most men don't want a mate, they want a fantasy. See porn use rates.
This always seems to be your point, it's kinda boring. Let's face it, women have just as unrealistic expectations and entitled attitudes as men do. You have a serious chip on your shoulder. I responded with facts, you went off on your typical "men are pigs" rant.

By the way, lifelike love dolls are already on the market, so you're late to that party. If you can make them cost less than $5,000, which is what they cost now, you may be onto something.

In other threads, you've stated something to the effect that your husband has given up on life and is no longer the man you married, romantically speaking. I'm just guessing, but this would seem to be why you have such an axe to grind with men. You should be in therapy, if you're not already. It's not healthy to take out your own failures on a whole gender, men here get told that all the time.
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