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These senseless killings will continue if we don't take a hard look at mental healthcare and begin to change everything about it...from the legal to the medical communities in this country...big changes need to start happening...and soon! Very sad...
Bringing the topic back to the OP, I'm glad op started the thread. I'm going to be thoroughly honest I stopped posting in the relationship section after repeatedly reading from people who were lamenting they couldn't get a girlfriend. I stopped posting when someone pointed out in another thread, I can't remember what it is, they get no support and only anger from people on this forum. I didn't respond to that thread but I remember thinking that, that was probably accurate and I was guilty of it. So, I stopped responding.
I'm going to be thoroughly honest again. I was tempted for a while to start a thread about how on this forum and others whether guys who can't get dates will end up acting out in some way. My suspicion has kind of always been that these people are a little bit mentally unbalanced. I'm not referring to the regular person who has trouble getting a date, but instead to the person who kind of lives an online lifestyle which includes lamenting about not being able to get a date.
All, I'm trying to write is that I hope when we read these threads in the future we are just a little bit more compassionate or if we are not feeling compassionate that day don't respond.
Take a look at any of the news coverage of similar shooting incidents and see if you can spot the commonality. Most of them will focus on the surface and avoid the real issue. You hear things like ''violent games caused it'' or in this case ''he was a frustrated virgin''.
One must ask themselves why all of the other frustrated virgins didn't do the same thing. In other words, I believe it is very naive to attempt to swallow what news reports spoon feed us. Did this guy kill people because he was a frustrated virgin or did he do it because he had a mental illness or a history of mental problems. One must consider his history, upbringing, type of family and much more.
If you think a guy did this because he was a frustrated virgin then you have bought into propaganda and will help in the continuation of avoiding the main issues at hand.
I have to agree, but unfortunately people are going to focus on sweeping generalizations and status quo laws and look at other people in his situation as potential murderers.
If you saw his last video, the way he talked... would make comic book super villains blush. There was definitely mental illness, delusions of grandeur, gross sense of entitlement and inflated ego. He comes from a very wealthy family and was given everything, and it's not surprising with all those mental gymnastics he does, he expects nothing less than the best and is super frustrated that it never came to fruition and his absolute refusal to check himself just made things worse.
What bothers me is that people are going to see this kid, and look at other lonely men or (I hate this term) "nice guys" in the future with a very broad brush, because many individuals just aren't conditioned to think more openly and study men on a case by case basis. The guy proclaims himself as the "perfect gentleman" or "nice guy", people are going to remember this guy when they hear other men say it.
He reminds me of another guy around a decade ago who was super obsessed with the actress who played Seven Of Nine on Star Trek and made videos with a dictionary and proclaiming on why they were meant to be together.
Take a look at any of the news coverage of similar shooting incidents and see if you can spot the commonality. Most of them will focus on the surface and avoid the real issue. You hear things like ''violent games caused it'' or in this case ''he was a frustrated virgin''.
One must ask themselves why all of the other frustrated virgins didn't do the same thing. In other words, I believe it is very naive to attempt to swallow what news reports spoon feed us. Did this guy kill people because he was a frustrated virgin or did he do it because he had a mental illness or a history of mental problems. One must consider his history, upbringing, type of family and much more.
If you think a guy did this because he was a frustrated virgin then you have bought into propaganda and will help in the continuation of avoiding the main issues at hand.
Bringing the topic back to the OP, I'm glad op started the thread. I'm going to be thoroughly honest I stopped posting in the relationship section after repeatedly reading from people who were lamenting they couldn't get a girlfriend. I stopped posting when someone pointed out in another thread, I can't remember what it is, they get no support and only anger from people on this forum. I didn't respond to that thread but I remember thinking that, that was probably accurate and I was guilty of it. So, I stopped responding.
I'm going to be thoroughly honest again. I was tempted for a while to start a thread about how on this forum and others whether guys who can't get dates will end up acting out in some way. My suspicion has kind of always been that these people are a little bit mentally unbalanced. I'm not referring to the regular person who has trouble getting a date, but instead to the person who kind of lives an online lifestyle which includes lamenting about not being able to get a date.
All, I'm trying to write is that I hope when we read these threads in the future we are just a little bit more compassionate or if we are not feeling compassionate that day don't respond.
You raise a good point. These guys spend all their time cruising the internet, watching porn, smoking weed and playing video games and then wonder why no girls find them attractive?!
Folks, three threads were started in Relationships on this same topic. Two have been closed and the third has been moved to the Psychology forum. You'll find it here: //www.city-data.com/forum/psychology/2124206-should-women-start-dating-kissless-virgins.html#post34944919 You may continue the discussion there. The reason I am not merging the two threads is because the posts would be out of order, confusing the discussion. Sorry about that.
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