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Old 06-12-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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It seems as if women like to box men into their narrow view of what a man is supposed to be and how hes suppsoed to act yet when man try to box women into whats feminine and how a women should act its looked at as demeaning..

I personally think its ignroant to think every man on earth should be the same becasue hes a man and vice versa..people are different not just genders

There is a very large difference between trying to box someone into roles you have in your mind and judging them for that, and being attracted to someone. They're two very different things.

We had a person on here always harping on castration and if women would be interested in dating a castrated male. Most (shockingly!) had zero interest, that doesn't mean the dude shouldn't go down the path of whatever expression of gender / sex /whatever he wanted to. Most people are like "do whatever floats your boat".
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:08 PM
 
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Have any of you ever been and are you currently in a relationship with a man that doesn't conform to a strict idea of 'masculinity'?

Examples include wearing clothing, living in a way, etc. that according to your culture is considered "feminine" such as wearing dresses and make-up or staying at home being domestic taking care of the children while some one else works?~

How does this make you feel, what are the 'positive things' you can share about, and what, if any, are some challenges or things you are still taking time to 'get used to'?

This doesn't just apply to heterosexual relationships, but every one is encouraged to share their views and experiences on this topic.~
My ex dressed in women's clothes for Halloween a few times, does that count?
If your asking do we dig cross dressers, personally no. A kilt might be ok, in the bedroom.
Other than that, I kind of like non conformists.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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It seems as if women like to box men into their narrow view of what a man is supposed to be and how hes suppsoed to act yet when man try to box women into whats feminine and how a women should act its looked at as demeaning..

I personally think its ignroant to think every man on earth should be the same becasue hes a man and vice versa..people are different not just genders
I can't imagine where you get this. Times have changed so much since the 1950's.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: SoCal again
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I like masculine men. Tall, strong, dominant and confident.

If their hair gets so long that they need a hair brush, it is too long. If they need longer to get ready to go out than me, we have a problem.

Unreasonable? Maybe.
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:00 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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It seems as if women like to box men into their narrow view of what a man is supposed to be and how hes suppsoed to act yet when man try to box women into whats feminine and how a women should act its looked at as demeaning..

I personally think its ignroant to think every man on earth should be the same becasue hes a man and vice versa..people are different not just genders
Fair point. Sometimes I get really annoyed with the obligation to remove nearly all of my body hair to be considered feminine, not just below the waist but also my arms and armpits and now my freaking face. I've plucked my eyebrows for ages but now have to worry whether I have a stray hair on my chin or cheek or neck. It's stupid. We're mammals, I'm female. And I do hate being defined and judged that way, as if being how I was BORN could make me less female or feminine. At the same time, I don't expect men or women to just get over a lifetime of social conditioning and find my hairy legs attractive. That's different from just not being judgmental and mean about it.
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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I had a cross-dressing dude message me on OKC once. Sooooo not my thing.

But being a SAHD? No, not feminine. That's taking care of your family.
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: North America
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I want a guy who isn't hindered by what is considered masculine or feminine. A nice balance is something I am looking for. I don't want a guy that's atypically girly girl like though. However, I also don't like girls like that either.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Where Dance Music comes first
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A man who wears a dress is either a transvestite or a transexual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc&feature=kp
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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Fair point. Sometimes I get really annoyed with the obligation to remove nearly all of my body hair to be considered feminine, not just below the waist but also my arms and armpits and now my freaking face. I've plucked my eyebrows for ages but now have to worry whether I have a stray hair on my chin or cheek or neck. It's stupid. We're mammals, I'm female. And I do hate being defined and judged that way, as if being how I was BORN could make me less female or feminine. At the same time, I don't expect men or women to just get over a lifetime of social conditioning and find my hairy legs attractive. That's different from just not being judgmental and mean about it.
You aren't obligated to do it.

No one forced you to do it...
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:57 PM
 
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There is a very large difference between trying to box someone into roles you have in your mind and judging them for that, and being attracted to someone. They're two very different things.

We had a person on here always harping on castration and if women would be interested in dating a castrated male. Most (shockingly!) had zero interest, that doesn't mean the dude shouldn't go down the path of whatever expression of gender / sex /whatever he wanted to. Most people are like "do whatever floats your boat".
So when a woman posts, "I don't want a guy who cross dresses, or acts "feminine", that is considered ok

but when a man posts, "I don't want a girl who doesn't shave, or acts "masucline" that is considered not ok right?
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