15 Truthful Reasons Men Want To Get Married (husband, 2014, American)
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You're right, your feeeeeelings probably do trump the data.
EDIT: And when it does die an unceremonious death, I'll be there to dance a *** on its grave. Marriage in the late 20th and early 21st century is slavery that the male gender needs to be liberated from.
Bored today, Ninja? Got nothing better to do than stir the pot?
You're right, your feeeeeelings probably do trump the data.
EDIT: And when it does die an unceremonious death, I'll be there to dance a *** on its grave. Marriage in the late 20th and early 21st century is slavery that the male gender needs to be liberated from.
Wow, biased much? What, did your wife sleep with your brother and run off with your dog??
Sorry Sparky, marriage may look "different" but it will never disappear.
Until recently, marriage was both the default lifestyle expected of most adults, and the only systematic means of having a romantic relationship. Going further back another 1-2 generations, marriage almost guaranteed that this relationship would endure, even if one of the partners developed reservations. Thus, marriage was both necessary and sufficient for a stable relationship. Today, neither is true, and this raises glaring questions about the utility of marriage. Even so, married couples continue to enjoy crucial legal and financial advantages. A specific example? After my divorce, my annual income taxes went up by $7000. My income didn't change, but my filing-status did.
However, there are some jobs where before the 20th century, the incumbent was expected to be unmarried, whereas now the situation is entirely the reverse. I give an example below. So in that sense, marriage has become MORE important, not less.
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Originally Posted by stan4
I think marriage is pointless/unnecessary UNLESS you have kids.
Kids need stability, reliability, and security.
None of these is guaranteed with marriage, but a lot more likely.
While I agree that children in particular benefit for a married two-parent household, there are even benefits for the child-free.
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Originally Posted by timberline742
What dreams would be ended with a marriage? That is what I'm trying to fathom. Be a rock star and live on the road? ...
A chess grandmaster in his early 20s is thinking about going pro. This means traveling for 200 days/year and living out of a suitcase. Can this be done while married (without abject risk of divorce)?
Expeditionary-type of jobs were typically done by unmarried men. An example is the military. It was broadly expected that a man would serve out his military career unmarried, and that his marriage would be preceded by retirement. In fact the whole point of retiring was to "settle down" and to get married. Today it's the reverse, at least in the modern American military, where it seems that marriage is essential for an officer's career-advancement.
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Originally Posted by timberline742
biography
career
seriously?
I won't argue causality vs. correlation, but consider this: How many high-ranking military officers are unmarried? How many corporate CEOs are unmarried? How many state-level or national-level politicians are unmarried? For positions of high visibility and influence, for positions of leadership, it's expected that the incumbent first "lead" a family, before leading an organization. If you're an Lt Col trying to make 0-6, being unmarried counts as a detriment, if only unofficially. If you're a VP vying for the top-job, being unmarried counts as a detriment. The more senior the position, the more socially expected it is to be married.
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Originally Posted by NinjaSlipper
For a lot of little boys, their childhood dream is to be, like you said, a rock star, an astronaut, a lumberjack, live by himself in the woods....that's all over on wedding day.
The point, I think, isn't that marriage is a trap or a tawdry burden, but that it's an acquiescence that one has undertaken the responsibility of adulthood, and has become a staid member of the establishment, rather than an iconoclast or a rebel. For some people this is dispiriting, as it implies a surrender of one's individual primacy, in favor of stability and acceptance.
But at a certain point we realize that rebellion and nimble rootlessness are preferable only if fellow rebels can be mustered. If one remains alone, while all others have acceded to the "yoke" of marriage, remaining the indomitable individualist loses its appeal and luster. The continued rebellion becomes sophomoric and vain.
Bored today, Ninja? Got nothing better to do than stir the pot?
*yawn*
He's singing the same tune he always sings when he gets here
Reminds me of the guy standing on any city street corner in America screaming at the passing throngs...THE END IS NEAR - REPENT! Yeah, nobody pays any attention to him either
Nope, never had the displeasure of being married. It absolutely will disappear if males are not given some incentive to do it.
Right now, there are none...in fact, there are a lot of DISincentives.
Fascinating. I guess this explains why the wedding announcements pages in the newspapers are full of happy couples? Not to mention the stampede to marriage by gay male couples?
Another lame theory shot down in flames. Have a nice weekend, Ninja.
Difference is, I'm using facts and figures. You're using nothing but your feeeelings.
Do you have any evidence that the precipitous decline of marriage rates are going to turn around? Or even level off?
My "feelings" have nothing to do with the fact that religions that value marriage as the solid foundation in which to rear a family have existed for centuries and centuries. Believers will never be "extinct" and therefore neither will marriage
Fascinating. I guess this explains why the wedding announcements pages in the newspapers are full of happy couples? Not to mention the stampede to marriage by gay male couples?
Another lame theory shot down in flames. Have a nice weekend, Ninja.
Gotta love it when someone with absolutely ZERO experience in something wants to speak as though he is an expert in it lol
sounds like a lot of horse ****. I dont think a single man would ever think like this.
Umm...
*runs and hides in shame.
The cynic in me is disappointed in this list. But I'm okay with what I've read.
"Cuz I'm in luv"
...But it's unrequited so I am going to get my heart broken. Got to learn somehow.
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Back to the drawing board. How are those weekend plans coming along, btw?
