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Old 12-03-2014, 07:34 AM
 
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Well, you have to start somewhere. One step at a time is the only way you get anywhere, so stop trying to go straight from 0-100.

Start with idle conversation with girls. Make SURE you include girls you find attractive. That's the hard part, talking to girls you're not into is easy.

The key is to be carefree about the outcome. Just be in the moment and have fun, if something comes of it then cool, if not, then cool. That DOESN'T mean you aren't interested in being with the girl, it just means if it doesn't happen you aren't destroyed. In fact, you're fine, life goes on the same as it was before. You were fine then, you'll be fine after.

This creates a strong vibe, where you come across as unshakeable, grounded, which also comes across as confidence. You don't NEED her to say yes, hell, you don't need her at all. You don't need her approval.

This also free's you up to be humorous, to mess around with her when the moments present themselves. Fearlessness is attractive, that is the main thing that attracts women to douchebags. They aren't afraid at all.

Once you've had a conversation with the girl and she seems interested in you, ask her out. There's no magic catch phrase, you can do it many different ways and be successful.

From there, just keep being the same guy you were in that conversation, and when the time comes to get physical, grab your cojones and do it, even if your adrenaline is flowing, heart is pumping, etc. Just do it.

 
Old 12-03-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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Better to not be pursued than having someone totally undesirable pursue you.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 09:09 AM
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Is this behavior abnormal? especially for a man who would like women in his life(I'm 23)? Not even in high school have I flirted/pursued a woman. I don't know what's wrong with me. But I made this realization just now. I was reading this book and it said a man should approach a woman who he is attracted to, by making her attracted to him by building attraction through flirting. A typical mistake beta males make is try to become her friend and then try to build attraction.

I realize I wasted so much of my life and missed out on a lot. All the girls(in my age group) I know are on a "high, bye" relationship with me. Initially a girl will tolerate my company but then later she will try to avoid or simply greet and leave ASAP.

I'm considering meeting with this one escort so I can touch a woman and gain experience with them quickly. Only thing stopping me right now is that I'm cheap.

Yes there are some similarities here, you said you have never flirted/pursued a women and that's exactly how I am, even I never flirt and I have never pursued a woman as well and I am a little older than you, the only difference between your post and me is that in your case it seems to me that you want to do it but somehow you are either not able to do it or something is stopping you from doing it. I don't know what it is.

In my case I am single by choice and out of my own free will and I have never regretted it.

Either way you don't need need to worry about it, it's not abnormal and at least not accrording to me. However I think what I can see in your case is you still need to clear your mind as far you wanting a woman in your life is concerned. You have to be sure about what you want with respect to that. I can see you are confused, at least a little.

Anyway. Good luck.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 09:42 AM
 
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Well that's certainly harsh.......
Harsh? That's exactly what he wanted when he posted. Pity. He certainly has it from me.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Is this behavior abnormal? especially for a man who would like women in his life(I'm 23)? Not even in high school have I flirted/pursued a woman. I don't know what's wrong with me. But I made this realization just now. I was reading this book and it said a man should approach a woman who he is attracted to, by making her attracted to him by building attraction through flirting. A typical mistake beta males make is try to become her friend and then try to build attraction.

I realize I wasted so much of my life and missed out on a lot. All the girls(in my age group) I know are on a "high, bye" relationship with me. Initially a girl will tolerate my company but then later she will try to avoid or simply greet and leave ASAP.

I'm considering meeting with this one escort so I can touch a woman and gain experience with them quickly. Only thing stopping me right now is that I'm cheap.
Hey you are not alone, I never pursued a woman when I was young.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Omg don't get a escort just to touch a woman!
 
Old 12-03-2014, 12:02 PM
 
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They should shut down the Internet for a month just for its own good. On the flip side of that would be a bunch of threads like: "man I banged so many chicks the past month, why didn't you guys tell me this?" Instead of all these pity me please, I am a 57 year old virgin threads. The Internet is s crutch for the socially awkward, and needs to be removed if people are to not be such losers. I would recommend a trip to a dating consultant as opposed to a therapist. You want dates or medications and excuses?
Agreed. When I came on here searching for answers, everyone just told me to go see a therapist and to stop dating. That was bad advice. Instead, I tried a different dating strategy and that appears to be working out much better than my previous strategy. If I listened to the advice here, I would probably still be depressed and would still not have a solution to my problems.

Therapy is fine in certain situations, but, in many cases, it's just mental masturbation. It's copout advice from people that don't have a solution.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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Is this behavior abnormal? especially for a man who would like women in his life(I'm 23)? Not even in high school have I flirted/pursued a woman. I don't know what's wrong with me. But I made this realization just now. I was reading this book and it said a man should approach a woman who he is attracted to, by making her attracted to him by building attraction through flirting. A typical mistake beta males make is try to become her friend and then try to build attraction.

I realize I wasted so much of my life and missed out on a lot. All the girls(in my age group) I know are on a "high, bye" relationship with me. Initially a girl will tolerate my company but then later she will try to avoid or simply greet and leave ASAP.

I'm considering meeting with this one escort so I can touch a woman and gain experience with them quickly. Only thing stopping me right now is that I'm cheap.
You don't need therapy and you don't need an escort. You need to start approaching women in mass and failing hard. You need to learn the right things to do versus the wrong things.

I suggest building social circles with many close female friends and male friends. Focus on taking advice from men and women in long-term committed relationships AND men that are known players and know how to get a lot of women.

The first few months will be tough, but you may surprise yourself and have some success early on. Either way, you need to start this now or risk further lifetime regret.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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Ok. This is not healthy. Hello is too much? I am not trying to be mean, but I would highly recommend therapy.
To be honest, I agree with him. No I don't need therapy either.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: NY
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Omg don't get a escort just to touch a woman!
How else would a guy touch a woman? I mean, it's not like a guy can just meet women, talk to them, be nice to them, develop some chemistry and mix in some romance, and... well... have them the woman WANT him to touch her!



When does THAT ever happen??

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