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Old 03-14-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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While I don't want to seem overly-skeptical of people's motivations when selecting a romantic partner, I do believe that most people look to gain some level of control over a potential partner. It isn't a very romantic notion, and it may well function on an unconscious level, but it is only human nature to approach any type of relationship from this perspective.

This frequently happens by exploiting a discrepancy in some aspect of relative social standing: wealth, physical attractiveness, intelligence, social connections, etc. For example, men who have far greater economic resources, often select women whose economic resources are much more limited. This gives the man a certain amount of functional power within the relationship.

Likewise, I think a lot of women seek out men who are less intelligent than themselves. This gives those women a degree of leverage and control within the relationship. Given that women are significantly better educated than are men in The United States--a gap which is increasing exponentially--this has become a relatively easy metric for women to take advantage of.
It may be your human nature to do that, but it's not mine. Speak for yourself, dude.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It may be your human nature to do that, but it's not mine. Speak for yourself, dude.
I think I made it clear that I was speaking for myself, dude!
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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I guess I've seen both. Do you get out often?

Anyway. This thread is about women being attracted to intelligent men.

Are you intelligent?
According to tests, I have slightly above-average IQ but much slower processing speed than most other people. On a social level, I'm essentially retarded.

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Old 03-14-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Likewise, I think a lot of women seek out men who are less intelligent than themselves. This gives those women a degree of leverage and control within the relationship. Given that women are significantly better educated than are men in The United States--a gap which is increasing exponentially--this has become a relatively easy metric for women to take advantage of.
There's nothing worse than being with someone who's less intelligent; someone you can't really have a good conversation with, and whom you have to do the thinking for. (Well, ok, except for being with someone abusive; that's worse.) Those partnerships/marriages don't work. Men, at least traditionally, have had a much easier time being with a mate who wasn't as intelligent or as educated as them; marrying the secretary, the stewardess, the nurse who cared for them in the hospital, used to be pretty common. In my observation, the women who marry a guy who's on a whole different level in terms of education overlook that part of it. Somehow, it doesn't cross their radar, and they're happy with being with a loving, supportive guy who helps out around the house, and can do the repair work. They don't seem to notice how often the guys screws up and has to re-do his work, or makes poor decisions, or whatever.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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I think I made it clear that I was speaking for myself, dude!
Not really. Take another look.

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While I don't want to seem overly-skeptical of people's motivations when selecting a romantic partner, I do believe that most people look to gain some level of control over a potential partner. It isn't a very romantic notion, and it may well function on an unconscious level, but it is only human nature to approach any type of relationship from this perspective.

This frequently happens by exploiting a discrepancy in some aspect of relative social standing: wealth, physical attractiveness, intelligence, social connections, etc. For example, men who have far greater economic resources, often select women whose economic resources are much more limited. This gives the man a certain amount of functional power within the relationship.

Likewise, I think a lot of women seek out men who are less intelligent than themselves. This gives those women a degree of leverage and control within the relationship. Given that women are significantly better educated than are men in The United States--a gap which is increasing exponentially--this has become a relatively easy metric for women to take advantage of
You're speaking for an awful lot of people, here. And I agree with Newbie; it's not inherent to being human to want to control your partner. The need to exercise control is due to a pathology, like insecurity or some other ego-related issue. Or perhaps out of conditioning, from the family environment one was raised in.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: My House
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According to tests, I have slightly above-average IQ but much slower processing speed than most other people.
Maybe your slower processing speed is translating over into your interactions with others. I'd bet you my 401K that this is a personality issue inhibiting your success at attracting a reasonably attractive female.

Unless you believe you should be dating gorgeous women who model on the side while your looks might be more likely to attract women of average looks.

There is often a disparity with younger guys that I cannot figure out. I blame porn. Seriously.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: My House
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There's nothing worse than being with someone who's less intelligent; someone you can't really have a good conversation with, and whom you have to do the thinking for. (Well, ok, except for being with someone abusive; that's worse.) Those partnerships/marriages don't work. Men, at least traditionally, have had a much easier time being with a mate who wasn't as intelligent or as educated as them; marrying the secretary, the stewardess, the nurse who cared for them in the hospital, used to be pretty common. In my observation, the women who marry a guy who's on a whole different level in terms of education overlook that part of it. Somehow, it doesn't cross their radar, and they're happy with being with a loving, supportive guy who helps out around the house, and can do the repair work. They don't seem to notice how often the guys screws up and has to re-do his work, or makes poor decisions, or whatever.
Agreed. I don't mind being somewhat more intelligent, but a guy who is dumb as a box of rocks turns me off.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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According to tests, I have slightly above-average IQ but much slower processing speed than most other people. On a social level, I'm essentially retarded.
But it's your lack of looks and money that are turning women off - not your horrible social skills? Uh huh.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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Maybe your slower processing speed is translating over into your interactions with others. I'd bet you my 401K that this is a personality issue inhibiting your success at attracting a reasonably attractive female.

Unless you believe you should be dating gorgeous women who model on the side while your looks might be more likely to attract women of average looks.

There is often a disparity with younger guys that I cannot figure out. I blame porn. Seriously.
That, or video games. Which are almost a form of soft porn. Too much media input, not enough exposure to reality at that age.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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According to tests, I have slightly above-average IQ but much slower processing speed than most other people. On a social level, I'm essentially retarded.
This is why your mom (and everyone here) is saying you need to work with a counselor. It might not even have to be a psychologist. It could be that all you need is a good MSW to coach you.

In any case, posting here about it isn't going to do anything for you. We all agree your mom is right.
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