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Old 04-21-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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That is a load of poo, clothing does not make the man or woman and it has nothing to do with being disrespectful or not caring enough.

Too many people are too uptight about clothing and what it is alleged to represent and it's all a bunch of hogwash.
Those who do not have to put on airs to impress others have more respect than many others ever had for those involved in the event.

How do you know Aunt Minnie stated she did not want anyone to dress up or "fuss" over her?
You don't.
Actually, as I was very clear in my post that you yourself quote, it does not mean being dressed to the nines. Congratulations. You are the predictable person who twisted my words around. Jeez, I wish people would actually read for a change.

What it does mean is that you respect the occasion. And if you don't think the clothing you wear does not carry significance, then you are living in a dream world.

In fact, here's the litmus test. Did you just slouch into your last job interview or business meeting wearing whatever you put on to garden? If not, you already acknowledge this truth in one form or another.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I'll admit I don't like dressing up and don't even own a suit but I think it is very disrespectful to show up at a wake or funeral in shorts. I've seen it done many times but it's classless. Like the OP said, just put on some comfortable khakis and a decent shirt. How hard is that?
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: SoCal again
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I'll admit I don't like dressing up and don't even own a suit but I think it is very disrespectful to show up at a wake or funeral in shorts. I've seen it done many times but it's classless. Like the OP said, just put on some comfortable khakis and a decent shirt. How hard is that?
Very hard apparently. Much harder as chugging a bottle of whiskey.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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I'll admit I don't like dressing up and don't even own a suit but I think it is very disrespectful to show up at a wake or funeral in shorts. I've seen it done many times but it's classless. Like the OP said, just put on some comfortable khakis and a decent shirt. How hard is that?
It's not.

I mean, hell. From the first of April to the end of October, I'm in shorts and sandals whenever humanly possible. At the moment, I'm banging away on a client assignment with my feet propped up on the deck with the cat snoozing beside me on the glider. It's how I roll.

Yessirreeeee, I'm Mr. Casual.

But when I go to see a client, I put on what MrsCPG calls "Go Get Me Some Money" clothes. When I go to a wedding or a funeral, I put on a suit. If I go to church, I put on a sports jacket and, more often than not, a tie. If we go to a dinner party, I honor the hosts by wearing appropriate clothing as well. If I see a client on a construction site or a plant floor, I'll put on jeans and boots, but still wear a smart casual jacket and tie.

Why? Because it's not about me. It's about the reason for going. Personally, I think we've lost something with this "I'll wear whatever I want because who really cares" palaver. People who think that are fools because people do care. Not because they're critiquing the labels you're wearing, but rather because clothing is very much a visual clue to what you think about what's going on, and how important you think it is. So if you cannot bother to even wriggle into a pair of khakis and a long-sleeve shirt, it basically tells the other person that the occasion just isn't that important to you.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:00 PM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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I see this a lot in the Southwest. I'm a Michigan guy that grew up wearing a tie to church, wore slacks and a sweater for Christmas, and wear a T-shirt underneath my golf shirt.

Here in AZ, it's amazing how many shorts & sandals I see at church. Holy cow, I went to my Grandmother in law's funeral last year.......and out of hundreds of people there.......I was one of six that wore a suit.

And this has nothing to do with desert temperatures, as the funeral was in January.

C'mon guys. Polish those shoes, tie a nice Windsor knot and wear clean underwear.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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It's taking them out of their comfort zone.
Of course they don't want to.

Not many men want to go to church, wakes or weddings either...

The answer to the issue is in the behavior.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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I see this a lot in the Southwest. I'm a Michigan guy that grew up wearing a tie to church, wore slacks and a sweater for Christmas, and wear a T-shirt underneath my golf shirt.

Here in AZ, it's amazing how many shorts & sandals I see at church. Holy cow, I went to my Grandmother in law's funeral last year.......and out of hundreds of people there.......I was one of six that wore a suit.

And this has nothing to do with desert temperatures, as the funeral was in January.

C'mon guys. Polish those shoes, tie a nice Windsor knot and wear clean underwear.
You kind of wonder how many of these sad sacks on this forum who complain about women not paying attention to them fall into that category. They never bother to look at how they dress. Dropping a few hundred bucks at a Joseph A. Banks during one of their sales will improve your curb appeal immeasurably. Hell, a Target. Just flip through a GQ or an Esquire. You don't want to be that over-the-top, but you don't want to be able to blend in with the crowd at an actuarials convention, either.

Here's the thing. Before that woman can plumb your soul, before she can converse with you for hours, before she can decide to live a life with you, bear your children, and scorch the sheets with you, she has to like what she sees across the room. And the clothes you wear not only tell the world what you think about it, but what you think about yourself. The few women who deny that are liars.

It doesn't make you a conformist, far from it. In fact, I would offer that the conformists today are the ones who schlump about in jeans and a t-shirt. The funniest thing of all? Jeans are about the least comfortable summertime pants you can wear. A good pair of khakis or linen pants look a lot sharper and feel a lot better when the temperatures are north of 90 degrees.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:29 PM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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My lady & I went to a casual place for dinner last Sunday.......I noticed that she was wearing a 'lil bit of bling and some sexy shoes.

That was my cue to leave the cut off jeans in the drawer along with my sneakers and BBQ stained college T-shirt.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: SacTown
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You kind of wonder how many of these sad sacks on this forum who complain about women not paying attention to them fall into that category. They never bother to look at how they dress. Dropping a few hundred bucks at a Joseph A. Banks during one of their sales will improve your curb appeal immeasurably. Hell, a Target. Just flip through a GQ or an Esquire. You don't want to be that over-the-top, but you don't want to be able to blend in with the crowd at an actuarials convention, either.

Here's the thing. Before that woman can plumb your soul, before she can converse with you for hours, before she can decide to live a life with you, bear your children, and scorch the sheets with you, she has to like what she sees across the room. And the clothes you wear not only tell the world what you think about it, but what you think about yourself. The few women who deny that are liars.

It doesn't make you a conformist, far from it. In fact, I would offer that the conformists today are the ones who schlump about in jeans and a t-shirt. The funniest thing of all? Jeans are about the least comfortable summertime pants you can wear. A good pair of khakis or linen pants look a lot sharper and feel a lot better when the temperatures are north of 90 degrees.
Not sure why you're very insisting that everyone should dress up in a suit tie spit shines. Good for you if you like dressing up like Prince /formally known/. You know people exercise the right of choice.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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Not sure why you're very insisting that everyone should dress up in a suit tie spit shines. Good for you if you like dressing up like Prince /formally known/. You know people exercise the right of choice.
Actually, you didn't read my post previously to that. Because that's what I'm NOT saying. What I'm saying is that you dress for the occasion.
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