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Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Originally Posted by Jobster
It happens in some states like Colorado. Good luck if you're a man and you get divorced there.
There was a thread circulating somewhere on this forum where a guy got divorced in Colorado after he found out his wife was cheating on him. She was the one that divorced him by the way, and she took all of his stuff and now he lives in poverty.
I think a distinction needs to be made between marriages that involve children and marriages that do not. If children are involved it should be a very last resort and really isn't warranted absent abuse or gross infidelity. It's not just about the husband and wife in those cases, other lives are involved as well. Regarding marriages without children, it doesn't matter nearly as much because no other lives are involved in any great way.
Yeah, well that's how I got into the 3 marriages to begin with!
And yes, you and everyone one else collectively (society) should be making the decisions.
Look, I am actually a pretty hard core libertarian. I live in the boonies in very rural north west NV away from everyone. I believe that the government should provide military protection of our nation and have some limited laws regarding business and environment. I don't need law enforcement (I and my distant neighbors take care of ourselves), I don't need roads (we build our own roads), I don't need government heath insurance, etc.
That sounds tres cool; northwest NV is beautiful country.
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Originally Posted by Hackopotamus
But if the government is going to issue and certify marriage then then have the right to control how it ends. They will do this through divorce court where a judge determines whether a divorce is granted or not, depending on the evidence presented. If a spouse has been convicted of abuse, if there is evidence of cheating, if one is in jail, etc then the judge will grant the divorce. If the parties come in and just say, "Well, we just don't get along anymore" then tough! Go to counseling, swallow your pride, make some changes. Now, a family law judge just decides child support and alimony.
At any rate, I want to change this thread to "Are Marriages Too Easy?". Better to be more aware going in than to go in blind and later try to get out it it.
I think divorce is too easy. That's why the rate is so high.
I think it's not easy enough...the amount of monies paid just to get married should also include any (should they come about) divorces.
Making divorces easier to attain won't (in my opinion) create more divorces...people are either committed or they're not...the attainability to get or not get a divorce really has nothing to do with it.
I've known people who've got married (I believe) just because they wanted the pomp and ceremony that goes with it...to be the center of attention for the day..sad but true.
Like you're taking the vow of "death do us part" too literally?
Fascinating.
Fascinating that you would so casually dismiss something someone says in a vow. Yes, I am taking it 100% literally! I made a promise to stay together until I die. I was willing to live up to my word. My ex's were not. Maybe my fault but they were not willing to stick to their commitment.
I come from a small town where your word is your bond, If you say you are going to do something, you do it.
Obviously, other people don't have the same beliefs.
Fascinating that you would so casually dismiss something someone says in a vow. Yes, I am taking it 100% literally! I made a promise to stay together until I die. I was willing to live up to my word. My ex's were not. Maybe my fault but they were not willing to stick to their commitment.
I come from a small town where your word is your bond, If you say you are going to do something, you do it.
Obviously, other people don't have the same beliefs.
I think you're in the right. Marriage is about discipline.
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Fascinating that you would so casually dismiss something someone says in a vow. Yes, I am taking it 100% literally! I made a promise to stay together until I die. I was willing to live up to my word. My ex's were not. Maybe my fault but they were not willing to stick to their commitment.
I come from a small town where your word is your bond, If you say you are going to do something, you do it.
Obviously, other people don't have the same beliefs.
I haven't dismissed any vow.
You have, apparently three times. So, you're wrong, your word is not your bond. And you do not have this belief.
Perhaps you should reflect on your actions and deal with your inability to keep promises and stop blaming others for your failures in marriage.
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