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Old 07-02-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Do you prefer to be yourself just for the sake of it, even if that means you are less attractive or even unattractive to the other sex and thus more likely to stay single? Or do you try to cater to what the other sex considers attractive, violating your own tastes and principles?

For instance, I know that most women like men that are ambitious and successful (I think I read that it is in their genes, they don't choose to be that way), which in turn shows in certain ways (e.g. clothes, home).

The other way round, many men don't like women with short hair, or wearing makeup. Yet some women have boyish hair cuts or wear heavy makeup.

I thought about that topic when I was watching one of those dating reality TV shows last night and there were all those "ape-men" with their tattoos, earrings and muscles, and women liked that look. So, I was wondering if those vain men run around like that because they want to or because they know young women like that whole bad boy image. I personally just can't imagine myself that way, I am merely a good boy

Would you get a tattoo just because you know women (or maybe a particular woman you like) like that type of men?
Would you wear a suit instead of casual clothes just because you know you would come across as more successful and sophisticated?
Would you wear high heels just because you know many men think it's normal for women to wear them, although you don't like them yourself?

I suppose there are also cases where one does certain things that one thinks must be attractive to the other sex, but really aren't.

 
Old 07-02-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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As there is a variety of preferences for both genders I guess I wouldn't worry about it.

Some things are more widely liked by the opposite gender and some less, but you are dating an INDIVIDUAL, not the gender at large.

Plenty of women with men that work low end jobs, plenty of men with women who have short hair.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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I do what suits me. For instance, if I wanted to do what other people prefer, I'd get tattoos. I think I'm the last guy on the planet who has clear skin.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If it's just to attract, go out of your way for what you think is your 'best' look even if it isn't 'you'.
But, if you aren't going to keep it up all the time you might as well be yourself.
"False advertisement" which could lead to disappointment comes to mind.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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two young single guys I know say they have much better chances of meeting woman when they wear suits or at least a sport coat and a tie. It alludes being successful.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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I'm not really even sure what men like anymore. I wear what I feel best in.
I know if I'm uncomfortable, it makes me crabby. They probably don't like the crabby look.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I try to go for the most attractive version of myself. It's really all I can do. But for many it takes time and life experience to understand that that is enough:

I always liked how Lauryn Hill put it in this song. She cautions young women AND men not to sacrifice themselves for trends:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VemOx3VtsQ

"How you gon' win when you ain't right within?"
 
Old 07-02-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
Do you prefer to be yourself just for the sake of it, even if that means you are less attractive or even unattractive to the other sex and thus more likely to stay single? Or do you try to cater to what the other sex considers attractive, violating your own tastes and principles?

For instance, I know that most women like men that are ambitious and successful (I think I read that it is in their genes, they don't choose to be that way), which in turn shows in certain ways (e.g. clothes, home).

The other way round, many men don't like women with short hair, or wearing makeup. Yet some women have boyish hair cuts or wear heavy makeup.

I thought about that topic when I was watching one of those dating reality TV shows last night and there were all those "ape-men" with their tattoos, earrings and muscles, and women liked that look. So, I was wondering if those vain men run around like that because they want to or because they know young women like that whole bad boy image. I personally just can't imagine myself that way, I am merely a good boy

Would you get a tattoo just because you know women (or maybe a particular woman you like) like that type of men?
Would you wear a suit instead of casual clothes just because you know you would come across as more successful and sophisticated?
Would you wear high heels just because you know many men think it's normal for women to wear them, although you don't like them yourself?

I suppose there are also cases where one does certain things that one thinks must be attractive to the other sex, but really aren't.
Sorry, OP, but this is nonsense. Most women don't like the "ape-man look", and plenty of men love and marry women with short hair. That's just silly--humans are extremely diverse in what appeals to them. Furthermore, many people (wisely) fall for the total package; personality is just as important, if not more so for some people, than hairstyle.

You understand that those "reality" shows aren't real, don't you? they're staged and orchestrated to a great degree. The contestants are carefully selected to create whatever effect the producers want. It's entertainment. It's not "reality".
 
Old 07-02-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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two young single guys I know say they have much better chances of meeting woman when they wear suits or at least a sport coat and a tie. It alludes being successful.
That really depends on the venue. Few men wear sportcoats or suits on weekends, and plenty of men meet women on weekends in casual dress: at neighborhood soccer games, in hiking groups or at boating clubs, at the gym, etc. There are plenty of singles events that nobody wears suits or sportcoats to, as well.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Sorry, OP, but this is nonsense. Most women don't like the "ape-man look", and plenty of men love and marry women with short hair. That's just silly--humans are extremely diverse in what appeals to them. Furthermore, many people (wisely) fall for the total package; personality is just as important, if not more so for some people, than hairstyle.

You understand that those "reality" shows aren't real, don't you? they're staged and orchestrated to a great degree. The contestants are carefully selected to create whatever effect the producers want. It's entertainment. It's not "reality".
I know those shows are not real, but then again, I see many such people in real life as well these days...

I think it might be an age-related and cultural thing.

Some time ago they said that Portuguese women (and probably not only those) over a certain age think it's important a man has tidily combed hair with part. The fluffy look seems reserved for younger people.
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