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Old 01-31-2019, 04:23 AM
 
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Sonic Spork: The "teenager" target thing is a nonsense. Sure, I don't know the percentage of men whose deviation is like that.

But a huge majority of men I met and talked with, regarding women, only considered the 10-15 years younger to be at the threshold of attraction. Anything younger than that, and it's a kid.


But it can go the other way, too. I recently discovered Sarah Silverman on hulu. She's almost 10 years older, but I find her incredibly attractive, though her visuals are really only small part of what makes her ultra amazing. She's cute, smart, very loveable, soulful , agreeable yet almost decade older.
Crazy thought, eh?
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Old 01-31-2019, 05:03 AM
 
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But it can go the other way, too. I recently discovered Sarah Silverman on hulu. She's almost 10 years older, but I find her incredibly attractive, though her visuals are really only small part of what makes her ultra amazing. She's cute, smart, very loveable, soulful , agreeable yet almost decade older.
Crazy thought, eh?
She's cute, but when she opens her mouth, she turns me off. Completely tasteless and vulgar.
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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Hey, JBT, it's been TEN YEARS since you posted this. Did you ever get the answer to your question?

Attempt to humiliate those who posted recently in answer to this old thread isn't appreciated. The thread appeared on page one of New Posts in bold letters.

Haven't you thought other people besides an OP get something out of replies even if the thread is a decade old?
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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She's cute, but when she opens her mouth, she turns me off. Completely tasteless and vulgar.
She is polarizing, no doubt about that. She's obviously very famous, no idea how I actually managed to discover her just two months ago, but then again, I wasn't following standup last 3 years....

Out of curiosity, why do you find her tasteless? Her clothing is weird, though .

I find her only touch vulgar ( say compared to somebody like Amy Schumer), she basically almost doesn't curse (unless appropriate), but like everything, these things are relative.


My point was, if she was an actor, I wouldn't ever notice her, but since I have to agree with 99% of what she says, her attractiveness has skyrocketed way above mere physical looks.

Of course, it's a show, but I highly doubt, if she was just faking it, she'd be so believable. Her temperament is huge part of her attractiveness.


I absolutely adore how she grows and matures and acknowledges things she thought were ok 10 years ago, but now realizes they aren't. She owns her f*ck-ups! Doesn't sugarcoat it. Doesn't avoid responsibility.
If I put that as criteria on OLD, I would never ever meet some other woman.

There's no way some 25-year old would be able to elicit such connection. She would only have less wrinkles than Sarah, but the moment she'd open her mouth...
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Sonic Spork: The "teenager" target thing is a nonsense. Sure, I don't know the percentage of men whose deviation is like that.

But a huge majority of men I met and talked with, regarding women, only considered the 10-15 years younger to be at the threshold of attraction. Anything younger than that, and it's a kid.
I don't know, I think men are highly physically attracted to youth in women (not fake plastic surgery young looking). It's pretty normal. Doesn't mean they would do anything about it or even admit it, but anyone can appreciate beauty. I think teenage girls are adorable in a way that adults cannot be. But that is just a fleeting time in life, it goes by fast. Any cute teen girl will get plenty of male attention from men of all ages.

Spork's guy was just being honest. It's not a big deal, just hey, youth is cool but we all get older and the world goes round.
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:54 PM
 
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I don't know, I think men are highly physically attracted to youth in women (not fake plastic surgery young looking). It's pretty normal. Doesn't mean they would do anything about it or even admit it, but anyone can appreciate beauty. I think teenage girls are adorable in a way that adults cannot be. But that is just a fleeting time in life, it goes by fast. Any cute teen girl will get plenty of male attention from men of all ages.

Spork's guy was just being honest. It's not a big deal, just hey, youth is cool but we all get older and the world goes round.
Yeah I dunno. I mean I've heard adult men give me the ol' shock & horror "I would never!" routine about young women, but then there is

Exhibit A: All of the "barely legal" and "Step-daughter" and "teen babysitter" and "young virgin gets DESTROYED!" porn out there, and hell it's pretty popular...

and

Exhibit B: The fact that I got hit on freakin' constantly from about age 14-18 or so, way way more than I ever did in my 20's or beyond. And I didn't gain weight or change in any major ways, just got a bit older. Somehow though I was way more attractive to men as a teenager than I've ever been as an adult.

Men of all sorts of ages, races, classes, you name it.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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Yeah I dunno. I mean I've heard adult men give me the ol' shock & horror "I would never!" routine about young women, but then there is

Exhibit A: All of the "barely legal" and "Step-daughter" and "teen babysitter" and "young virgin gets DESTROYED!" porn out there, and hell it's pretty popular...

and

Exhibit B: The fact that I got hit on freakin' constantly from about age 14-18 or so, way way more than I ever did in my 20's or beyond. And I didn't gain weight or change in any major ways, just got a bit older. Somehow though I was way more attractive to men as a teenager than I've ever been as an adult.

Men of all sorts of ages, races, classes, you name it.
Me too, but the vast majority of men don't go there. They may look, but that's meh. Mid to older teens are starting to look like women so it's not a pedo thing for them find them attractive. They have a glow of youth and innocence (even if they are not), a lot of men like that. I know, but it is what it is. As long as it stays in their fantasies.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:09 PM
 
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I don't know, I think men are highly physically attracted to youth in women (not fake plastic surgery young looking). It's pretty normal. Doesn't mean they would do anything about it or even admit it, but anyone can appreciate beauty. I think teenage girls are adorable in a way that adults cannot be. But that is just a fleeting time in life, it goes by fast. Any cute teen girl will get plenty of male attention from men of all ages.

Spork's guy was just being honest. It's not a big deal, just hey, youth is cool but we all get older and the world goes round.
Honest, eh? You think I'm not being honest if I say that ~50-yr old Sarah Silverman is cuter and more adorable than a teenager? And I'm 42.

I can imagine only one scenario, I think this scene is from Gotham show: A godfather is given young girl and he reminds her:
"What makes you think I would be remotely interested in anything you may have to say?"
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:18 PM
 
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Yeah I dunno. I mean I've heard adult men give me the ol' shock & horror "I would never!" routine about young women, but then there is

Exhibit A: All of the "barely legal" and "Step-daughter" and "teen babysitter" and "young virgin gets DESTROYED!" porn out there, and hell it's pretty popular...

and

Exhibit B: The fact that I got hit on freakin' constantly from about age 14-18 or so, way way more than I ever did in my 20's or beyond. And I didn't gain weight or change in any major ways, just got a bit older. Somehow though I was way more attractive to men as a teenager than I've ever been as an adult.

Men of all sorts of ages, races, classes, you name it.
Pretty popular? Care to supply some actual numbers? Because there's about a hundred categories in porn. Next thing you say is that BDSM and pi**ing are "pretty popular" ...

Inevitably, Nabokov's Lolita comes to mind. I read the original long time ago. The times when I read 10+ books each month...
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:31 AM
 
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Pretty popular? Care to supply some actual numbers? Because there's about a hundred categories in porn. Next thing you say is that BDSM and pi**ing are "pretty popular" ...

Inevitably, Nabokov's Lolita comes to mind. I read the original long time ago. The times when I read 10+ books each month...
I strongly believe that porn categorized along "youth" lines is far more popular and mainstream, than BDSM or watersports or any other fringe kink. Hell, "Barely Legal" magazine, is that still a thing? It was, for a very long time, anyhow.

I mean, just because a lot of guys (I believe) are into it, doesn't mean I'm saying literally every man and yes, you too, MUST be full of desire for teenage girls. I just don't think it's rare enough to be an oddity. At all. And no, I really cannot research stats on this computer right now. Maybe if I happen to be on this site from home at some point, I think it should be easy to find, I seem to recall that one of the major "tube" sites compiled some data at some point. If nothing else, googling for stats on "Barely Legal" magazine's subscriber numbers shouldn't be difficult.

I never read the book, but I watched the movie with Jeremy Irons in it. Based on my own experiences as a teenager, I have a very unpopular opinion about the subject. I was a sexually active teenager and I happily seduced a few men in their 20's along with the many high school boys I was with during that time. And I don't see at all, how it was really much different, if all we're talking about is sex. I mean on the one had you've got a fumbling teenage boy who would be wrecked if the worst had come to pass and I'd gotten pregnant, compared to an adult man who might have the resources to help handle such a situation. The only part where things get problematic, was that (much like in Lolita) older guys have this desire to get all serious, and a teenage girl shouldn't be getting into a serious, life altering relationship thing. If Jeremy Irons' character in that film had tumbled that girl a time or three and then vanished from her life, the story would have been entirely different, for example. The only issue I ever had with older lovers when I was a teen, was getting rid of them when it was time for it to be over.

Which is quite contrary to the societal notion that "love" and relationships are the wholesome thing and sex is the dirty, damaging, awful thing. The only partner who caused me any psychological damage was the one I wound up married to. I met him when I was 18 and he was 29. Casual sexual connections left no real mark on my life, though a lot of that is sheer luck, but one abusive marriage...? Yeah.

But the first time a man treated me as a "sex object" in a manner I could detect (and which made me very uncomfortable) I was 12. If you think that's a rare or isolated experience, talk to more women.
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