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Old 11-23-2009, 11:23 AM
 
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I just want to clarify that when I used the word "normal" I am referring to prostitution not being considered a normal line of work and that prostitutes are not and can't be normal, as a general opinion.

But what is normal anyway? Normal is the new abnormal.

I use "normal" in the nominal sense, to mean, within a range that society considers acceptable. I'm not too concerned with defining what society considers acceptable.

What I mean is that there is nothing inherently abnormal about prostitution, absent some form of government or law. It only becomes abnormal within our society, where operating as a career criminal leads someone to associate with other types of criminals.

For example, modern day liquor manufacturers are not predisposed towards criminality, murder, robbery, or general mayhem - even though someone who had only lived in the 1920's might make this assumption.

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Old 11-23-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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Nope, he arrested those who advertise themselves as "upscale" high end etc. too, not just those on the streets. All had addictions. Many started out in that category and ended up walking the streets. It's not a glamorous lifestyle anyway you look at it. All eventually crash and burn in one capacity or another.
Sorry, but I seriously question that every single one was addicted to drugs and that all eventually crash and burn in one capacity or another. I question the credibility of anyone who generalizes and uses terms like "every single one" and "all" so frivolously. Aside from the fact that there is plenty of personal testimony out there to dispute that; unless the next step is to accuse them all of lying.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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I use "normal" in the nominal sense, to mean, within a range that society considers acceptable. I'm not too concerned with defining what society considers acceptable.

What I mean is that there is nothing inherently abnormal about prostitution, absent some form of government or law. It only becomes abnormal within our society, where operating as a career criminal leads someone to associate with other types of criminals.

For example, modern day liquor manufacturers are not predisposted towards murder, robbery, or general mayhem - even though someone who had only lived in the 1920's, might make this assumption.
Gotcha.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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Someone's occupation has no bearing on friendship to me. To be honest the neighbor who was the prostitute would probably be more intimidated of befriending me and my roomate. We often blast loud music, have a cat, frequently get caught walking around with high powered guns, and do burnouts in our driveway.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:54 PM
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I don't know if anyone else makes this comparison too, but the prostitute(s) I've known are lot like some guys I know who work as body guards or bouncers, you have to be born with the right looks(size), you can get hurt or killed, the pay is great, you can't do it for ever, you work at night, even though they make a living with their body, they have to have a lot street smarts to be good at it.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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Default Why retire at all?

A really good professional hooker with an accumulation of carnal knowledge, hooks, and they'll have the same clients begging for additional services for years to come. A true professional should be able to extend their careers into their 40's and 50's. There's any number of older hookers in Hollywood. The drug-taking hookers, who don't know how to hook, might not be able to extend their careers into their 30's.

A true professional hooker can play any client like a violin. Comes from accumulated experiences, and later on in their 40's & 50's, they'll even have clients in their 20's begging for their services. And do they need a well-maintened body for this? No!

Like in the movie Monster with Charlize Theron. She looks at someone in a restaurant or skating alley, and she can size someone up immediately, with pinpoint accuracy.

Why would an auto mechanic quit at the peak of his career and knowledge, when it gets easier and easier to fix any car. Or any other professional?

I speak from experience. Go watch the movie Carnal Knowlege sometime.

If I sought out a hooker, I'd seek someone with years of exprience, just like choosing an auto mechanic. Some belly bulge? I'm more interested in what they can do for me.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:45 PM
 
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I have family in law enforcement. One of them is an investigator down in San Diego, working his way up from a beat on the streets for 15 years. He often did prostitution stings and probably arrested 3000 plus hookers during his career. He told me he NEVER encountered one that did not have a drug addiction. Not a single one.

He always tried to help them and felt sorry for most of them. Most had horrible lives growing up in abusive homes and were thrown away by society. Some of the stories he told me over the years were so sad it was almost unbelievable.

There is nothing good that comes from prostitution. Ya, I've heard all the arguments, but the bottom line is you're dealing with people who have yes, made bad choices, but have also been kicked around their entire lives and in a sense you are taking advantage of that. It's morally wrong in my opinion.

Somewhat, yes. My mother's childhood friend was a street Prostitute. Like those females your kin speaks of, this woman sold her body to get drugs or money for her daughters. I interacted with said woman, I never looked down at her. She got herself a bad habit and sex(a woman selling her body)sells like hot cookies.

But that's just like anything. There are the poor auto - mechanic and the auto - mechanic who fixes only the car's of the likes of Bill Gates.

I have a friend who puts females on a golden pedestal. For this reason, he doesn't know how to charm women up. As a consequence, he relies on High end escort services.

Most people would think that only a poor woman or a woman with a drug problem enters this underworld. Sometimes, the underworld has more exposition to the sun than the green grass Ireland has in its back.

My friend, would speak of these "very attractive females". When I asked him "But you always preferred younger females."

he replied with :" What does that have anything to do with it? The females I sleep with(escorts) are from the age of 18 to 25."

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Then, when we were in a party, he picks up the phone and dials up one of these business women. She comes and... Well, I was a bit fixated on her. Heck, she was a former classmate of mine.

Turns out, my friend has been sleeping with several of my former classmates. Now I know how those college aged females had that much money; the funniest of all is that, several of those females were the offspring of my parent's friends. Those parents had a LOT of cash, paid for the girl's tuition; yet, here we have the 18/25 year old selling her body because she likes to earn hundreds of euros per day.

My friend called my nose up to the secret underworld that surrounds the college scene. I wasn't aware that so many former classmates of mine were(and many still are) high end escorts. Well, at least marry a rich guy, I guess, instead of living this life: not that I condone it, I just find it odd.

I think I've answered your question. I'm friends with "prostitutes" without knowing it. I am aware of it now - I still think of them just like I thought of them before: people trying to make a living.

This also got me thinking.

How many guys out there are dating, marrying and having children with former or current escort/prostitutes?

My former classmates don't do drugs or drink or are being pimped. They do it for the money, the status(it seems that having rich guys makes them feel special) and the power they have over men.

When you want something, you mustn't care for it too much. It will control you. Taunt it, tease what you want - it will go after you. Make sex the Golden Fleece and you'll end up paying for it .
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:42 PM
 
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CNBC has an one-hour special on this topic. It's on every once in a while. Pretty interesting. I think the number of people who extra-martial affairs and use services such as escorts are much higher than we think.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:55 PM
 
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CNBC has an one-hour special on this topic. It's on every once in a while. Pretty interesting. I think the number of people who extra-martial affairs and use services such as escorts are much higher than we think.

Yeah. I read something from an English piece on this "phenomenon."

Some of the customers were married males with a thriving business. When the interviewer asked why they resorted to prostitutes, they'd say: "Well, my wife doesn't perform this or that act" or, "my wife, ever since having the baby, doesn't want to have sex."

Some of the guys were not married and really good - looking. Why they decided on the services of an escort service?: "They are cheaper and easier."

Another one had a very good paying job but instead of getting a girlfriend(s) went to prostitutes.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:33 AM
 
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Yeah. I read something from an English piece on this "phenomenon."

Some of the customers were married males with a thriving business. When the interviewer asked why they resorted to prostitutes, they'd say: "Well, my wife doesn't perform this or that act" or, "my wife, ever since having the baby, doesn't want to have sex."

Some of the guys were not married and really good - looking. Why they decided on the services of an escort service?: "They are cheaper and easier."

Another one had a very good paying job but instead of getting a girlfriend(s) went to prostitutes.
Interesting.
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