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I would hope that women in their 30's are more willing to "give it up" easier than younger women.
Younger women have a fear of being a "****" as if their future potential husband will find out how many they've slept with and be turned off by it.
I'd speculate that older women don't care anymore about their "number" and just want to enjoy sex if they're attracted. What do they have to lose? They're already old, not going to get any prettier, and most decent men are picked over. I'd guess that women would start wising up and use sex as a tool to KEEP a good guy around. If I'm 30-something and I'm at a point where i'm happy in my life, why would I waste my time with a middle-aged woman if she wasn't puting out?
The real question is, why would she waste her time with someone that all he thought about was getting into her pants? I think many women out there are more preceptive than you give them credit for. Many of them will figure you out in no time.
The ignorance being spewed on this thread is astounding.
But perhaps that's why those spewing it remain bitter and without women.
So far Mathguy is the only male offering advice here who has not also demonstrated that he has his head up his colon.
I'm going to have to throw in with Avienne and Mathguy! I hate to see guys who are bitter, bashing women, and thinking they are good for nothing but sex. So, take the advice you hear from these bozo's with a grain of salt. You don't want to end up like they have, bitter, full of hate, and not very smart.
The real question is, why would she waste her time with someone that all he thought about was getting into her pants? I think many women out there are more preceptive than you give them credit for. Many of them will figure you out in no time.
The real question is: Why does someone wanting to get to know you and be in a relationship with you become mutually exclusive to also wanting to have sex?
The real question is: Why does someone wanting to get to know you and be in a relationship with you become mutually exclusive to also wanting to have sex?
So, maybe there are some rules for dating in there.
Sadly, some meatheads with an "I'm so great, you'll want me attitude" never get it. They know who they are, they're the one's going without. In other words, undateable.
I am not 30, I have quite a few friends above that age, most of them are not single though. I was just speculating on what I think it would be like based on what I've heard. The general concensus that I've heard is that dating gets easier for men with age, and tougher for women.
This is generally true. Somewhere in the 30's the balance of power (women have it no question in their 20's) in dating levels out and then starts to favor men. Much of this is driven by the mortality rate, supply\demand.
With regards to sex. Unless the gal is religious, gals 30+ generally are more comfortable with themselves and their needs etc. If you are a good guy working on a relationship with them....you will be *likely* to have sex sooner than later. It will also generally be done well, with less inhibition etc.
Then again, I like fiesty women so without exception I never went on a 2nd date with a gal that showed up withdrawn, nervous etc.
Sadly, some meatheads with an "I'm so great, you'll want me attitude" never get it. They know who they are, they're the one's going without. In other words, undateable.
For every "undateable" jackass there is some gal that wants a badboy to provide a challenge and drama etc. Basically, disfunction attracts disfunction.
The real question is: Why does someone wanting to get to know you and be in a relationship with you become mutually exclusive to also wanting to have sex?
You'll no doubt learn more about 'mutually exclusive' when you grow up, right now I doubt that you experience very much of it. We understand why that is...
I have to agree with everything MathGuy has said. As usual, his posts are spot on. I would add that it's especially important to have realistic standards. A lot of guys enter their 30s expecting the women they meet to still look like they're 25 and have no kids. The worst part is these same guys have put on weight and lost some hair. Sadly, a lot of guys will interpret this as lowering one's standards and settling. You're not. You're just coming down to Earth. I'd also add that it's important to be open-minded about how you go about meeting someone. People in their 30s are busy. So instead of scoffing at things like online dating, why not employ it as one extra method of meeting someone? It doesn't have to be your sole or primary method. But if you're too narrow-minded to not even explore it, you'll have a harder time dating in your 30s.
One argument I reject is the "leftovers" argument, the one that says anyone who hasn't been married by the time they turn 30 was probably rejected by everyone else and should therefore be avoided. Maybe they devoted their 20s to establishing their careers. Maybe they just needed time to figure out what they really wanted. Maybe they saw all their friends and relatives getting married in their 20s and then getting divorced by their 30s and realized it would be worth waiting til they met the right person. Personally, I think it's great if someone waits til they're ready and resists the societal and parental pressure to get married by a certain age.
I also disagree with whoever said that following dating rules is sad. Actually, what's sad is NOT having any rules. Would you try to find a job that way? Of course not.
So, maybe there are some rules for dating in there.
The link was disappointing. I was looking for a list of things to make a guy safe from the ravages of divorce.
There is a lot of demand for that out there.
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The 'rules' of 30-something dating
