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Old 11-10-2008, 06:33 AM
 
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In this sign (verse) there is a very strong indication for the rotation
of the earth



"Thou seest the mountains and thinkest them firmly fixed,
but they pass like the passing of the clouds,
(such is) the artistry of God, who disposes of all things in perfect order,
for he is well acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 27:88)"

 
Old 11-12-2008, 05:54 PM
 
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another proof

the sun moves fast around the centre of the galaxy and while it is moving it goes up and down.

all of the above actions are approved by the quran with one verb run


Sura #36 Ya Seen

38 And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him), the Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing.

39 And the Moon,- We have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date-stalk.

40 It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).

41 And a Sign for them is that We bore their race (through the Flood) in the loaded Ark.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 07:50 PM
 
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What proof? You are just stating that Muslims were very observant. What are we suppossed to deduce from your "proof"?
 
Old 11-15-2008, 01:21 PM
 
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What proof? You are just stating that Muslims were very observant. What are we suppossed to deduce from your "proof"?



When a nation start to ignore the testament of their prophet because hundreds of years passed since their prophet died and because of new generations then a new prophet is chosen from one of them to invite them to worship Allah and unification and Allah support his prophets with miracles .

The impact of the miracle is very strong for those who saw it
so the people start to become believers again and they tell the people who did not see the miracle and every generation tell the next generation but gradually the impact of the miracle is reduced and the people start to be infidels

So a new prophet is chosen from one of them and the events pass similarly

The message of Jesus (prayer and peace be upon him) was about 2000 years ago

The message of Mohammad (prayer and peace be upon him) was 600 years after Jesus (prayer and peace be upon him)

Nowadays more than 1400 years since the message of Mohammad (prayer and peace be upon him) and Allah told us in the Quran that Mohammad (prayer and peace be upon him) is the last prophet and he is sent to all people in all the world and the message is completed.

So there is no next prophet.

But should not we get a new miracle like the people in the passed ?!!

The answer is no because the miracle of Mohammad (prayer and peace be upon him) is still alive with us and it is the Holy Quran.


The Quran is a record of the exact words revealed by God through the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad. It was memorized by Muhammad and then dictated to his Companions, and written down by scribes, who cross-checked it during his lifetime. Not one word of its 114 chapters, Suras, has been changed over the centuries, so that the Quran is in every detail the unique and miraculous text which was revealed to Muhammad fourteen centuries ago.
Understanding Islam and the Muslims - What is the Qur`an?
 
Old 11-16-2008, 02:51 PM
 
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another proof

the Quran used the word run for the movement of the ship insted of the word sail becase it goes up and down while it is moving because of the waves

sura #45
Allah it is Who hath made the sea of service unto you that the ships may run thereon by His command, and that ye may seek of His bounty, and that haply ye may be thankful; (12)


And hath made of service unto you whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; it is all from Him. Lo! herein verily are portents for a people who reflect. (13)




 
Old 11-17-2008, 04:03 PM
 
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another proof

sura #21
the moon moves around the earth and the earth moves around the sun and the sun moves around the galaxy.

And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit. (33)
 
Old 11-18-2008, 11:40 AM
 
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These are not proofs. Again, these are observations. There is a difference. Please realize the difference between observations and proofs. If my nephew claimed to create the earth because he realized that the earth revolves around the sun...that would be the same thing as you are doing. He observed that the earth revolves around the sun. You can't claim God based on a general observation. Again, it's like the nephew situation. So please if you have proof...which nobody has...state that, not general observations that a 5 year old can make.
 
Old 11-19-2008, 04:28 AM
 
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The moon, from earth, does indeed appear to be a perfect circle. That alone is actually good proof of intelligent design, despite the craters.
 
Old 11-20-2008, 10:17 AM
 
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More than 1400 years ago The Quran hinted that the moon is dark and its light is not its own light as the sun and the stars

The Quran uses different words when mentioning the light of the sun and the light of the moon

And also call the sun and the stars as lamp and lamps and does not call the moon lamp although the light of moon from earth is more than the light of the stars

The Quran used the word (noor in Arabic) for the light of the moon and used lamp or (dheeyaa in Arabic) for the light of the sun and used lamps for the stars

Noor and dheeya both means light but the light of noor is from indirect source and the light of dheeyaa is from a direct source

In Sura #10 Jonah verse 5

It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time). Nowise did Allah create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand.

In Sura #25 Al-Furqan verse 61

Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp and a Moon giving light;

In Sura #67 Al-Mulk verse 5

And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.

In Sura #71 Nooh verses 15 and 16

"'See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another,
"'And made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) Lamp


see more Scientific signs and hints in the Quran

YouTube - Proof that Allah (god) exists
 
Old 11-22-2008, 09:05 AM
 
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another proof

the day reveals the sun's lights
not the sun that shines and reveals the light and the day.


the space is dark
that because the vast majority of sun rays are invisible
and The visible ray of the sun will not be seen until it hits the atmosphere at daytime

so the day shows the glory of sun .

this fact is pointed in the Quran 1400 years ago in Sura #91 called Ash-Shams (the sun) in verse 3
1 By the Sun and his (glorious) splendour;
2 By the Moon as she follows him;
3 By the Day as it shows up (the Sun's) glory;
4 By the Night as it conceals it;
5 By the Firmament and its (wonderful) structure;
6 By the Earth and its (wide) expanse:
7 By the Soul, and the proportion and order given to it;
8 And its enlightenment as to its wrong and its right;-
9 Truly he succeeds that purifies it,
10 And he fails that corrupts it!



YouTube - Islam, Quran & Science "By the Sun and its brightness" 4/4
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