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Old 07-29-2010, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Planet Water
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No. Person Jesus was born in 1200 of our era. Now the galaxy enters into a stage and parametres of physical fluctuations change. Religious and the political propaganda will weaken. I am very glad. 2012 is a new life for "light forces" (the truth, native...). The end of a life for "of darkness" (religion, a policy...). So tells "a pagan" calendar. Which was made in a current of thousand thousand years.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:18 AM
 
Location: West Coast USA
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Don't worry about your Mom. Death is dying...that's why they call it dead. There is no more a life after death than there are streets paved with gold or floating away on a cloud. P T Barnum said, "There's A Sucker Born Every Minute." Religion proves that he knew what he was talking about.
You asked the question, I answered. We disagree. No one is amazed.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:01 PM
 
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Not at all. I am horrified by the thought. In fact, while I believe in hell because the Bible has Scriptures about it, and Messiah spoke of it, like W.C. Fields said on his deathbed, I used to read the Bible "looking for loopholes" -- but for other people.

I am concerned enough about it that, without their permission, I pray for strangers I drive past, that G-d will reveal Himself to them.

Both of my parents are gone. Father was a believer; I don't know if Mother was. Regarding Mother, that hurts. Deeply. The Bible says that G-d will wipe away all tears. I would imagine that after all the tears are gone, we will not be aware of those who are not with us. At the present, I hate to think that I may not even remember Mother.

However, I know my Creator, and I know that He has, for those who believe, exactly what is best. I will not question that.
This is so sad . . . believing such heinous things about our loving God and having to suppress love for those closest to us in the mistaken belief they are suffering ET! I despise those religious leaders who have wrought this evil doctrine for their nefarious purposes.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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This is so sad . . . believing such heinous things about our loving God and having to suppress love for those closest to us in the mistaken belief they are suffering ET! I despise those religious leaders who have wrought this evil doctrine for their nefarious purposes.
The worst derivative of it...is that it keeps some people from tuning into God. Even though they acknowledge they realize it's the work of greedy, power hungry men...the concept of eternal torment (beyond any pain imagined) is soooooo detestable, they just can't get past it...and it puts such a completely negative vibe to the whole trip...that the contemplation of God as the Essence of Love is totally compromised.

That is what happened to me over thirty years ago. The negative attributes assigned to God were such a turn-off...I ditched the whole concept of belief. I have now found that I had thrown the baby out with the bathwater...but look at all those years I wasted, because I was repulsed by the concept of "Evil Hypocrite Deity". All because of the way those men defiled that Book. But I've got to forget about that, and look at the here and now.

Mystic...that "despise" thing will eat you up inside if you give it harbor. I can understand how somebody as enlightened and in touch with Gods Consciousness as you would have such strong feelings about a defamation and slander of the Creator...but, turn it around and use that energy for inspiration to do your good work disseminating Truth and dispelling those fallacies.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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The worst derivative of it...is that it keeps some people from tuning into God. Even though they acknowledge they realize it's the work of greedy, power hungry men...the concept of eternal torment (beyond any pain imagined) is soooooo detestable, they just can't get past it...and it puts such a completely negative vibe to the whole trip...that the contemplation of God as the Essence of Love is totally compromised.

That is what happened to me over thirty years ago. The negative attributes assigned to God were such a turn-off...I ditched the whole concept of belief. I have now found that I had thrown the baby out with the bathwater...but look at all those years I wasted, because I was repulsed by the concept of "Evil Hypocrite Deity". All because of the way those men defiled that Book. But I've got to forget about that, and look at the here and now.

Mystic...that "despise" thing will eat you up inside if you give it harbor. I can understand how somebody as enlightened and in touch with Gods Consciousness as you would have such strong feelings about a defamation and slander of the Creator...but, turn it around and use that energy for inspiration to do your good work disseminating Truth and dispelling those fallacies.
Thank you Gldnrule . . . a momentary lapse in frustration with the intransigence of such a heinous belief. Be well my friend, Mustic
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:50 PM
 
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I am curious why it matters to any of you what I believe?
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:51 PM
 
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It doesn't, but this is a discussion board. Believe what you like, but if you don't want to discuss it, why bother with this site?
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:55 PM
 
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Oh, I didn't mean to be offensive! I love discussing this and other ideas with people and learning what they think.
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