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Old 12-24-2010, 01:01 PM
 
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You can pray in private. You can worship in private. There is no need to do such things publicly. I don't even attend services, that's how private I am.
In other words, treat your religion like your genitalia, private.

When people force either on another person, they have crossed the line.

 
Old 12-24-2010, 05:06 PM
 
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In other words, treat your religion like your genitalia, private.

When people force either on another person, they have crossed the line.
Except, perhaps, any children you have.

After all, you would share your values with your kids, and hope that they made the same choices you would, right?
 
Old 12-24-2010, 06:23 PM
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Except, perhaps, any children you have.

After all, you would share your values with your kids, and hope that they made the same choices you would, right?
No, a person should'nt force their beliefs on their kids either...Teach them to think for themselves so they can make their own choices
 
Old 12-24-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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^And...here's the kicker.

Would you be upset if they chose to believe in God--when you don't?
 
Old 12-24-2010, 06:36 PM
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^And...here's the kicker.

Would you be upset if they chose to believe in God--when you don't?
No, why would I? Actually one of them does believe in god, and one doesn't...The other three are not sure...
 
Old 12-24-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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Because the majority of parents want their children to share their values. That's why they instill them, or complain when someone else teaches them something that is in complete opposition to their values (like in public school).
 
Old 12-24-2010, 07:42 PM
 
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Except, perhaps, any children you have.

After all, you would share your values with your kids, and hope that they made the same choices you would, right?
No, my parents were Atheist, they let me find my own way, as I have done with my children.

The family value I did instill in them is honesty, integrity, and to face responsibilities head on, as they are in charge of their destiny.

When they asked, age appropriate direct answers were given of how I felt, and why.
 
Old 12-24-2010, 07:44 PM
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Because the majority of parents want their children to share their values. That's why they instill them, or complain when someone else teaches them something that is in complete opposition to their values (like in public school).

Values and integrity yes, but that's it.
You are talking about religious people here. Most atheists do not brainwash their kids, but encourage them to make their own choices....Once a child learns to think for himself that follows naturally.
 
Old 12-24-2010, 07:47 PM
 
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Because the majority of parents want their children to share their values. That's why they instill them, or complain when someone else teaches them something that is in complete opposition to their values (like in public school).
Belief in the characters of a fairy tale is not a value.

Honesty, integrity, tenacity, self esteem, etc, are values.
 
Old 12-24-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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Belief in the characters of a fairy tale is not a value.

Honesty, integrity, tenacity, self esteem, etc, are values.
For people who have a religion--even if it's a "lack of religion"--it is one of the things that they want to pass on to their children. In most cases.

I'm not the norm, neither are you.

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Values and integrity yes, but that's it.
You are talking about religious people here. Most atheists do not brainwash their kids, but encourage them to make their own choices....Once a child learns to think for himself that follows naturally.
I'm certain that there are atheists trying to pass on their beliefs on to their children as well.
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