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And I think you did ignore the part of my post that was more relevant to the topic than they part you chose to respond to. In other words you chose to reply to the part you thought was off topic... despite the fact I had already gone back on topic one post later... instead of responding to the VERY legitimate concern about your level of English.
Religion and god is a very very complex topic, with much that many people misunderstand. If a person genuinely does want to "lead people to god" for example, then doing it in a language that they can not speak is likely to cause more harm than good by making the points near impossible to understand.
Your post here for example is almost impossible for many english speakers to understand. It will therefore help no one, achieve nothing, and will likely confuse more anyone who is actually genuinely interested in "finding god".
Sometimes the best thing for some people to say on an issue is to say nothing at all. They do more harm than good when they speak. I genuinely think your time would be well spent asking yourself if this applies to you.
I am aware that i can not speak english like you do but i am also sure that i am not speaking in Hieroglyphic !!
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I see .. so you dont' belief in it .. because you dont' belief in supernaturals !!!
Now if i told you that i saw a laptop built on it's own by coincidence what will you think of me ?
i will tell you what you will think .. you will think that i am eather lunatic or someone who belief in supernaturals ...
Why ?
Because it is very complex and sophisticated to be made by coincidence .
On the other hand if i told you the it was made by someone you will finde it rational & more acceptable... wright ?
In other word .. what is more rational & acceptable .. coincidence or Maker ?
So .. dont' you finde it more supernaturals that all of those well organizer things in the universe was made by coincidence ?
Upon that fact i do beliefe that atheist are the most promoters of the supernatural theory mankind ever known
Could you please tell me what is .. "almost impossible for many english speakers to understand" .. of the above ?
i am also sure that i am not speaking in Hieroglyphic !!
I imagine you probably are. Thats half the problem.
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Could you please tell me what is .. "almost impossible for many english speakers to understand" .. of the above ?
Sure. All of it. I literally had no idea what you were talking about until someone else explained it and I then realised you were just stealing the old "Watchmaker" argument.
I imagine you probably are. Thats half the problem.
Sure. All of it. I literally had no idea what you were talking about until someone else explained it and I then realised you were just stealing the old "Watchmaker" argument.
Perhaps the problem doesn't lie with squall-lionheart.
Why are you not just ignoring his/her posts if you 'can't' understand them rather than suggest he doesn't post?
Now....tgnostic....that's another story
Maybe you should type in your own language and use a good online translator, the google one is not bad
Actually with some of the posts I had myself assumed that was in fact what the user in question did do.
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Why are you not just ignoring his/her posts if you 'can't' understand them rather than suggest he doesn't post?
As I stated, because if people genuinely are moved to convince people of a certain view point... then it is genuinely important to ask oneself if how they espouse that view point does more harm than good to it.
Originally Posted by Nozzferrahtoo
imagine you probably are. Thats half the problem.
keep imagining
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Sure. All of it.
I can imagine that
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I literally had no idea what you were talking about until someone else explained it
So .. someone explane it to you ...!!
Are you sure it was my post & not your Understanding ?!!!
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and I then realised you were just stealing the old "Watchmaker" argument
You realised or someone else realised it on your behalf ?
just kidding
"Watchmaker" argument !!!
Sure .. anything to make some brians work ... anything my friend ..!!!
Yes I am pretty sure it was your post. The grammar was awful, the spelling worse, and some of the words in it are not even real. However my point on that is now made, I will not continue with it.
Yes the "watchmaker" argument is the one you were espousing in your text. It is an old argument which you stole... the argument being that if you were walking in a forest and you found a watch, you would know it was designed and could not have constructed itself by chance.
Where the argument fails is that it is irrelevant, as the claims being made by Evolution are not solely reliant on chance, nor are they reliant on the evolved objects (the plants and animals) being constructed spontaneously... but being constructed in a long series of incremental steps which is massively different.
Yes the "watchmaker" argument is the one you were espousing in your text. It is an old argument which you stole... the argument being that if you were walking in a forest and you found a watch, you would know it was designed and could not have constructed itself by chance.
Even funnier is that our friend no doubt thinks he has stumped us with an argument that we have never come across before!!
Originally Posted by Nozzferrahhtoo
Yes I am pretty sure it was your post. The grammar was awful, the spelling worse, and some of the words in it are not even real. However my point on that is now made, I will not continue with it.
As you wish
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Yes the "watchmaker" argument is the one you were espousing in your text. It is an old argument which you stole..the argument being that if you were walking in a forest and you found a watch, you would know it was designed and could not have constructed itself by chance.
You miss the main point !!!
The benefit of the idea
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Where the argument fails is that it is irrelevant, as the claims being made by Evolution are not solely reliant on chance, nor are they reliant on the evolved objects (the plants and animals) being constructed spontaneously... but being constructed in a long series of incremental steps which is massively different.
There must be a system to organize everything .. that is the miracles of creation... but if you cant' even distinguish "causes" from "causative" then i have nothing else to say to you .
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