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Old 08-05-2011, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Since this can fit in both sub-forums, I decided to post it in the main forum instead.

BBC News - Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world

Your thoughts? The concept isn't anything new and there was a thread about this 2 years ago, but this is the first time I've seen this mentioned in the mainstream media. This reinforces my belief that if people generally stop believing in deities, it doesn't necessarily follow that religion will cease to exist.
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:25 AM
 
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This is why Christianity has survived for 2,000 years, they change their beliefs to fit with the local desires. It pains me that they aren't fighting anti-agnosticism even harder; however, they are being co-agnostic merely for market purposes, because no one would go to their buildings if the message wasn't more open to the people's beliefs. They should just sell the buildings to more truely agnostic priests and pastors. I like the idea of metaphorically identifying and destroying the things which make this world inferior to our mind's goldie-locks. However, I warn against straiving for perfection, as such has usually been observed to be a mistake.

However, the Reverand makes a mistake in defining God as "human experience", though perhaps it could be his lack of fluency in English. In defining God as "human experience" he basically told the more traditional anti-agnostic Christians that he was worshiping something human. For most descendants of pagans, worshiping something that isn't litterally true, nor "supernatural" or "outside" our thinking and existing and observing...such worship... is not worshiping their believed God. what he should have said was that God wasn't supernatural, a lot of Christians are moving with the current trend that accepting the truth that "supernatural" is an oxymoron is good. They don't like a God which lives outside of logic, that would be no comfort for them, they want a God they can understand and relate to... like they did with the Ancient gods. You wouldn't see a lot of Ancient Europeans worshiping "good human experience" and you won't see their Christian descendants doing it either. "God isn't something like an apple pie" might have been the best quote I heard.

These people that go to his congregation and other Dutch congregations should understand that BBC, having a bias for more traditionally English Christianity, is trying to portray their faiths as "a new form" of Christianity, when infact these very people could have been the same kind of people that were following Jesus in his early days, as he ran around re-interpreting Ancient Jewdaic law. What these Dutch Christians should understand is that they are merely going back to their original roots, and ceasing to allow Literalist Bible idolatry. The early Christians and specifically the early apostles, didn't carry around Bibles, since they probably believed God spoke through their heart and conscience, as Abraham Lincoln believed.

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