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You know, I think it's mainly on how the interpretation of the Christian sacred book is applied and who is doing the interpretation. In the culture that that sacred book originated in, it was a patriarchal culture and women are subjugated to a lower class, but that was the culture of the times. Today we have moved well beyond that and we are finding that women are as equal as men in many different professions. In my culture it is matriarchal and we need no sacred book to tell us that. You know, I think my culture was far more ahead of its time.
You know, I think it's mainly on how the interpretation of the Christian sacred book is applied and who is doing the interpretation. In the culture that that sacred book originated in, it was a patriarchal culture and women are subjugated to a lower class, but that was the culture of the times. Today we have moved well beyond that and we are finding that women are as equal as men in many different professions. In my culture it is matriarchal and we need no sacred book to tell us that. You know, I think my culture was far more ahead of its time.
I agree with the bolded. The interpretation of the bible in history was also often skewed by the patriachal medieval European societies.
There seem to be more partriarchal cultures than the other way around, but they do exist. A coworker of mine from India was telling me about an area of India where the women in the family make all of the decisions, especially as far as finance, etc., are concerned.
You are only referring to fundamentalist/bible-literal/bible-worshipping denominations. Quakers were promoting women's rights long before anyone else and practicing equality in their meetings.
No, I'm referring to the bible but Quakers can do whatever they wish..
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Of course, it's always much easier to just stick with stereotypes. Then no one has to think and everything can be kept simple and in little boxes.
Actually I think it's easier to come up with fantasies and to believe in whatever suits you better))
You know, I think it's mainly on how the interpretation of the Christian sacred book is applied and who is doing the interpretation. In the culture that that sacred book originated in, it was a patriarchal culture and women are subjugated to a lower class, but that was the culture of the times. Today we have moved well beyond that and we are finding that women are as equal as men in many different professions. In my culture it is matriarchal and we need no sacred book to tell us that. You know, I think my culture was far more ahead of its time.
But isn't that still unequal? A matriarchy? That's not really ahead of its time, in that aspect.
Its patriarchism in reverse heh heh!
We were talking about this in my Philosophy class the other day and wanted to get more opinions. Do you think it's possible to be a feminist and a christian, or would one have to be compromised to be a "true" christian or a "true" feminist?
I guess your teacher has never been to a convent or a school run by feisty nuns who enjoy calling all the shots. Also, I guess the teacher hasn't read any history in Christian theology...woe. There are three doctors of the RC church and many others who have inspired quite a bit and take on a real leadership role. What the heck is with education these days? Ever see a nun dish out the slugs, feminism? Ive known lots of nuns and if you think I'm wrong about affirmative position-leadership and sought out consolation by male leaders regardless of gender and implying notions re women-christianity then your just not up to speed with history...then I invite you to go talk to a banker in the proximity of a convent-high school or hospital....see what he thinks about yours and your teachers big strange idea. You will be very surprised at how Christianity has nothing at all to do with ..."short changing: a nice little humble Christian gal You think feminism is tough...woe Let your teacher know, don't forget.
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If Christianity is defined basically as accepting J.C. as your lord and savior to go to heaven, I suppose one could be feminist/egalitarian and Christian.
Isn't the rest "commentary?"
(Disclaimer, I am atheist and egalitarian, so no skin in the game).
I consider myself a feminist and a follower of Christ. I used to call myself a Christian but the religion has gotten so far away from the principles of Christ that I am careful about labeling myself with that term. I believe Jesus Christ was the ultimate feminist and liberal. Most Christians I know are a long way from that, but there are a group scattered around the globe who do not degrade women.
But isn't that still unequal? A matriarchy? That's not really ahead of its time, in that aspect.
Its patriarchism in reverse heh heh!
Nothing wrong with a good patriarch or matriarch...both create stability. Those who systemically try to dis-empower the patriarch also will attack the matriarch. You must remember those that persecute woman have no problem persecuting men.
The so-called ruling class all have patriarchs and matriarchs...BUT they do not want competition...so the assist in social engineering that strives to destroy patriarchy other than their own. Feminism is by design social engineering and duping of females...created to generate disruption in the man and woman relationship...a united couple can create little empires of their own..If they can get the woman to be in contention with the man...they have the upper hand.
ONCE a woman has supposedly taken the place of the so-called patriarch...she is next on the attack list...I have noticed in the courts that they grant woman a false sense of power...once the duping is complete..the system just uses them...They don't really care about woman......or men...They just want to maintain their status quo..
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