If the USA is a Christian Nation (hell, America, bible)
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Well you see, Christians are very selective when it comes to 'Christian values'.
Castigating homosexuals for wanting what the rest of us have (living their life with the person they love) seems to be a very popular 'Christian value'. They will chant about that until the cows come home, claiming that they are requested to speak against it because the Bible is against it. Yet when it comes to other 'Christian values' -particularly those that affect their pocketbook - they seem to be rather reticent about following them. Ask them about 'Christian values' like selling their possessions and giving the money to the poor, giving their shirt to someone that has stolen their coat or not attempting to get there possessions back if someone takes them and they will suddenly 'turn a deaf 'un' even though those 'values' can be found in their Bible and they have specific instructions from their man-god that it is something they should do.
It isn't, so problem solved. The problem is we keep entertaining religious people as if their opinions actually hold weight. All opinions are not equal and it's time to start calling them out Moderator cut: inappropriate . The reason some things are the way they are is because no one challenged them.
The concept of Christianity being a national religion is laughable (unless you're a nationalist zionist as the historical Jesus may have been). It's best for fit for the poor, impoverished minorities of a society, not for the rich upper classes.
It isn't, so problem solved. The problem is we keep entertaining religious people as if their opinions actually hold weight. All opinions are not equal and it's time to start calling them out Moderator cut: Orphaned. The reason some things are the way they are is because no one challenged them.
I agree! I'm sick to the back teeth of people telling me that I should have 'respect' for people's beliefs.
The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected.
-- H L Mencken
No, it's a secular nation that has, within it's confines, many religions.
The Christians only think it "belongs" to them and as such, they're hell bent on trying to impose their religion and it's questionable values on the rest of us.
I only did one search with a single choice of key words and stopped my search at 1/1/2012. If you REALLY search in this forum and Politics and Other Controversies, you'll probably find 10 times this many.
What NEW discussion points are being presented to warrant a new thread?
I agree! I'm sick to the back teeth of people telling me that I should have 'respect' for people's beliefs.
The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected.
-- H L Mencken
You can respect a person's right to believe as they choose without respecting the belief itself.
Right up to the point where they start shoving it down your throat and trying to make you live by their "moral" standards.
You can respect a person's right to believe as they choose without respecting the belief itself.
Quite! Unfortunately, too many people think that 'religious' beliefs should be held to a different standard.
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